May 17, 201313 yr Serious question because I'm not sure of the answer, but since you apparently works for a school system I'll ask. Is it true that schools do in fact get extra money from the state for each special needs child that they have in their system. TBG may be a better one to answer this than me, but its my understanding that because of the needs of these children they get a different rate from the per special needs child than a regular needs child.
May 17, 201313 yr That's a LOT more training than any other coach I know has taken. Each District has its own training policies, ours is pretty intense.
May 17, 201313 yr TBG may be a better one to answer this than me, but its my understanding that because of the needs of these children they get a different rate from the per special needs child than a regular needs child. Thanks that's what I thought.
May 17, 201313 yr And if the parents want the child to be a part of something that bad they need to be willing to be at each practice or game that their child is attending. It's happened all over the place hundreds of times. This situation is no different. The parents would know that if they are not in attendance, their child cannot be either. It's really not that hard and can be a great experience for the child. From my experience, it's an even greater experience for the other kids on the team AND coaches. This........seems to be the best answer of any so far.
May 17, 201313 yr Are football coaches trained to handle autistic kids who are on the team. Are football coaches trained to handle kids who are blind that are on the team? Being trained in this has nothing to do with her not being allowed to be part of it. Agree with you here, ref. I know several kids with various types of disabilities that have played football. As to this young lady, the importance of cheerleading for her is being a part of something. It doesn't seem she or her parets expects the school to give her a spot over another girl. But I do wonder why the school won't allow another way of including her as requested. I'm sure the team, like all sports teams, could use the help with managing the team.
May 17, 201313 yr Question...I know both a DS child and an autistic child, and a child with Asperger's. I don't find any of them be in need of any more specialized care than an ADD kid.
May 18, 201313 yr It's easy to be clear that if it becomes too big of a distraction than they need to part ways. Does this school have this policy? If so, weak, IMO. We have a no parents at practice policy yes.
May 18, 201313 yr And if the parents want the child to be a part of something that bad they need to be willing to be at each practice or game that their child is attending. It's happened all over the place hundreds of times. This situation is no different. The parents would know that if they are not in attendance, their child cannot be either. It's really not that hard and can be a great experience for the child. From my experience, it's an even greater experience for the other kids on the team AND coaches. I just read through all 4 pages and I think we might have found our answer to this debate. Somebody might just have gotten cut from the Cheerleading squad or Basketball team back in the day, I hope these people are not using their daughter's disability to get what they want but couldn't have, that would be sick. JMO
May 19, 201313 yr I just read through all 4 pages and I think we might have found our answer to this debate. Somebody might just have gotten cut from the Cheerleading squad or Basketball team back in the day, I hope these people are not using their daughter's disability to get what they want but couldn't have, that would be sick. JMO No chance. If you can't see the life lessons that could be gained from having this girl on as a mascot or manager than there's no reason to even discuss it. There are some close-minded people on this site.
May 19, 201313 yr I too agree with Rams post. No harm in allowing her to be a team manager, not taking any ones place on the squad. TTrue, but as waqs already mentioned, what is stopping others who don[t make the squad decide they want to be cheer manager's also?
May 19, 201313 yr TTrue, but as waqs already mentioned, what is stopping others who don[t make the squad decide they want to be cheer manager's also? Also as mentioned before, most girls that don't make the squad would look at being a "Cheer Manager" as a demeaning position.
May 20, 201313 yr I don't think any of us have all the facts here necessary to make a judgement. Some DS kids are still fairly high functioning and could indeed be a help, others require 100% attention. A lot of cheer teams have one coach and that's it. I think if a school can do something for a child like this, then that is great. But if they can't, then they shouldn't be chastised for it.
May 20, 201313 yr The school appeared to handle this correctly, they said she could try out just like everyone else. If they said anything else they shouldn't have. I would show any student or parent the criteria and tell them this is what it takes. We wish your daughter the best. I hope the school never said she couldn't be on the squad because she had Downs Syndrome. That would be a major problem legally I believe. If the school did the tryouts fairly with criteria and scoring rubric or something and selected the squad with that criteria they are doing probably all they can to be fair. I probably would let her be a manager or the like if the child wanted to. On a side, my least favorite day as a principal was the day the cut the cheerleaders. Lots of mad mommies.
May 20, 201313 yr Why do they cut cheerleaders at all? Don't cut band or even football? I understand there is a competitive factor in cheerleading (after all being at games is really a nuisance to most teams). All kids don't start in Basketball or Football or even Softball, doesn't mean they aren't allowed on the team. Don't cut anyone, everyone may not make the competition squad, but they can all cheer on the sidelines.
May 20, 201313 yr Question...I know both a DS child and an autistic child, and a child with Asperger's. I don't find any of them be in need of any more specialized care than an ADD kid. There is a HUGE range of functioning level in those various diagnoses.
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