May 17, 201313 yr Did you disagree with Teddy Kremer, being an honorary Reds Bat Boy too? Look, I don't have an issue with her being an "honorary cheerleader" or anything. I simply don't have an issue with the school's decision either. Not sure why that's so difficult for some of you to grasp.
May 17, 201313 yr I am with the school here. Question why should the down syndrome girl get to be "Cheer manager" over say any of the other girls that tryed out and got cut?
May 17, 201313 yr Look, I don't have an issue with her being an "honorary cheerleader" or anything. I simply don't have an issue with the school's decision either. Not sure why that's so difficult for some of you to grasp.I grasped what you were saying, just was wondering where your limits were on the subject. At the time I made my post I hadn't read where you were flexible on this subject to agree with the Honorary Cheerleader or Team Manager.
May 17, 201313 yr Look, I don't have an issue with her being an "honorary cheerleader" or anything. I simply don't have an issue with the school's decision either. Not sure why that's so difficult for some of you to grasp. So if the school said she can't be a manager or "honorary cheerleader" because she has Down Syndrome, you are okay with that? We completely agree on the full-time cheerleader decision. Everyone must meet the requirements, regardless of their situation, when other kids are getting cut. However, there are ways to get others involved.
May 17, 201313 yr I am with the school here. Question why should the down syndrome girl get to be "Cheer manager" over say any of the other girls that tryed out and got cut? The same reason other kids get to be water boy/girl or managers when others don't. The coach allows them to.
May 17, 201313 yr I am with the school here. Question why should the down syndrome girl get to be "Cheer manager" over say any of the other girls that tryed out and got cut? I say because most if not all girls who try out and dont make it feel they are too good to be a cheer manager and it will ruin their rep. At least that is what mom and dad told her.
May 17, 201313 yr I am with the school here. Question why should the down syndrome girl get to be "Cheer manager" over say any of the other girls that tryed out and got cut? You seriously don't see a difference? Do you have kids? Just wondering.
May 17, 201313 yr So if the school said she can't be a manager or "honorary cheerleader" because she has Down Syndrome, you are okay with that? Did they say that's the reason? Or is it that they just don't have them? Either way, I'm fine with the school's decision. High school is where kids learn that life isn't always fair.
May 17, 201313 yr Yeah, kids with Downs Syndrome need to be taught a lesson, that Life's not Fair. :ohbrother:
May 17, 201313 yr Did they say that's the reason? Or is it that they just don't have them? Either way, I'm fine with the school's decision. High school is where kids learn that life isn't always fair. With so little info in the article it's pure speculation. Considering there is a lawsuit against them you can make a pretty confident assumption that they didn't simply say, "We don't have managers". If they don't, and that's true, the school deserves to win the lawsuit whether any of us agree with their decision or not. While that is one lesson in high school a much more important lesson is the inclusion of those that may not be as athletic, musically talented, intelligent...etc. I think a child who has lived 14 years with down syndrome damn well knows that life isn't fair.
May 17, 201313 yr You seriously don't see a difference? Do you have kids? Just wondering. The issue is this, is the cheer leading coach trained to be able to handle a down syndrome (special needs child) if the coach is not trained to handle the child, the child may not be allowed to be on the team by school policy. No different than in the classroom. Have a special needs child on any team can require special attention needed to the child that the coaches may not be trained to handle, or in a case of cheerleading with perhaps only one coach, may not have the personnel to handle.
May 17, 201313 yr You seriously don't see a difference? Do you have kids? Just wondering. a difference in what?
May 17, 201313 yr Its just an unfortunate thin line. Kids with disabilities can be a huge burden, with alot of maintenance, and not everyone signs on for all that responsibility for the 1200 stipened they may get, whether you agree with them or not....its not against the law to turn someone away if they did not make the team.
May 17, 201313 yr The issue is this, is the cheer leading coach trained to be able to handle a down syndrome (special needs child) if the coach is not trained to handle the child, the child may not be allowed to be on the team by school policy. No different than in the classroom. Have a special needs child on any team can require special attention needed to the child that the coaches may not be trained to handle, or in a case of cheerleading with perhaps only one coach, may not have the personnel to handle. And if the parents want the child to be a part of something that bad they need to be willing to be at each practice or game that their child is attending. It's happened all over the place hundreds of times. This situation is no different. The parents would know that if they are not in attendance, their child cannot be either. It's really not that hard and can be a great experience for the child. From my experience, it's an even greater experience for the other kids on the team AND coaches.
May 17, 201313 yr I'm kind of torn on this topic. If they are a squad that does competition, that's one thing but if they are strictly a "cheer for the team" squad, I see no reason why this young lady cannot participate. I know I'm comparing apples to oranges here but last year, NCC had a young lady on their squad who has a physical handicap of some sort and wears braces on her legs. Tryouts were just held for next year and she did not make the cut this time, It is my understanding that it is because they are now going to be going to competitions which in past years, NCC had not participated in.
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