Maybe this has been covered, but did anybody else know that Iman Shumpert tore his ACL and meniscus on the same day (or close to) as Rose?

Yep, did you see that nasty tip dunk he had last night?

Yep, did you see that nasty tip dunk he had last night?

 

Yeah. That was nasty for real.

Maybe this has been covered, but did anybody else know that Iman Shumpert tore his ACL and meniscus on the same day (or close to) as Rose?

 

 

I guess he's another exception to the rule.

I'm not saying Rose is weak or a wuss because I have no clue as to what he is going through but on the outside looking in and going by what we seem to know it is very weird. Rose has been cleared to play for over 2 months now, he went through rehab, practicing, etc. What is left? The injury happened over a year ago, or at least close to it. I have not seen another player act this way when coming back from an injury, especially with their team fighting for a championship.

 

Most players beg to come back to get that shot at winning a championship. That is why Rose will not win one, sometimes you have to fight through stuff for your team. You think that every player out there playing in these playoffs are mentally 100%? If so then the joke is on you Rose.

 

 

 

IMO, he is worried about coming back and then the Bulls losing and him getting more of the blame. Maybe he's afraid of sucking, I don't know but it has to be something more than he is saying.

I guess he's another exception to the rule.

 

I think that its more that there isn't a rule. Everyone recovers differently.

For those unfamiliar with ACL surgery....here it is in a nutshell.

 

when you tear the ligament, it can never be salvaged.....they literally go in and clean out every bit of it from you knee. Then they cut out a graft from your hamstring and drill it to have it replace where your ACL was. Think about the flex of your hamstring, it can stretch but never bends and flexes like your ACL does in your knee. That's why the recovery is so long, you are basically training a ligament not intended to bend and putting it in your knee with your ability to run, jump cut, ect.

 

The recovery is so different because not everyone's body reacts to the graft the same. Some people's grafts develop quickly and others body doesn't react well to the new tendon. Therapy and training do make a difference, but when you take something in your body and put it somewhere it's not supposed to be, your body won't react naturally to it.

 

So please...........quit name dropping people who have came back and how fast, it's 100% irrelevant.

 

Also, keep in mind if he comes back and tears it again, his CAREER is likely over.

For those unfamiliar with ACL surgery....here it is in a nutshell.

 

when you tear the ligament, it can never be salvaged.....they literally go in and clean out every bit of it from you knee. Then they cut out a graft from your hamstring and drill it to have it replace where your ACL was. Think about the flex of your hamstring, it can stretch but never bends and flexes like your ACL does in your knee. That's why the recovery is so long, you are basically training a ligament not intended to bend and putting it in your knee with your ability to run, jump cut, ect.

 

The recovery is so different because not everyone's body reacts to the graft the same. Some people's grafts develop quickly and others body doesn't react well to the new tendon. Therapy and training do make a difference, but when you take something in your body and put it somewhere it's not supposed to be, your body won't react naturally to it.

 

So please...........quit name dropping people who have came back and how fast, it's 100% irrelevant.

 

Also, keep in mind if he comes back and tears it again, his CAREER is likely over.

 

 

He made $16,402,000 this season. He'll be all right. If not he should have hired a financial advisor.

 

 

Also, does he not face the same risks of tearing his knee today as he does a year from now? Can't he tear that knee again in practice?

For those unfamiliar with ACL surgery....here it is in a nutshell.

 

when you tear the ligament, it can never be salvaged.....they literally go in and clean out every bit of it from you knee. Then they cut out a graft from your hamstring and drill it to have it replace where your ACL was. Think about the flex of your hamstring, it can stretch but never bends and flexes like your ACL does in your knee. That's why the recovery is so long, you are basically training a ligament not intended to bend and putting it in your knee with your ability to run, jump cut, ect.

 

The recovery is so different because not everyone's body reacts to the graft the same. Some people's grafts develop quickly and others body doesn't react well to the new tendon. Therapy and training do make a difference, but when you take something in your body and put it somewhere it's not supposed to be, your body won't react naturally to it.

 

So please...........quit name dropping people who have came back and how fast, it's 100% irrelevant.

 

Also, keep in mind if he comes back and tears it again, his CAREER is likely over.

 

Your argument is irrelevant. :thumb:

He made $16,402,000 this season. He'll be all right. If not he should have hired a financial advisor.

 

 

Also, does he not face the same risks of tearing his knee today as he does a year from now? Can't he tear that knee again in practice?

 

From what I was told (and I'm no doctor obviously, just stayed in a holiday inn express) it takes about 2 years for it to fully heal graft to fully fuse and adjust to your knee). That being said, I think the risk after 8-12 months reduce significantly enough to come back and play.

 

I don't really think about it from the financial standpoint as much as I do hes a former MVP, still only 24, and puts the bulls back to the top 3 in the east when he returns for the next 5-10 years. I just look at it for the long term benefit of himself and the organization, dude should have enough money already to last him a long time.

 

As far as the practice thing goes, you see guys cleared for practice all the time. When someone comes back from an injury, they are cleared for practice and when they feel 90%+ or whatever it is, they can resume playing.

 

Maybe I sympathize a bit more because I am in the process of recovering from the same injury, but it's about the worst injury you can have in the sport.

From what I was told (and I'm no doctor obviously, just stayed in a holiday inn express) it takes about 2 years for it to fully heal graft to fully fuse and adjust to your knee). That being said, I think the risk after 8-12 months reduce significantly enough to come back and play.

 

I don't really think about it from the financial standpoint as much as I do hes a former MVP, still only 24, and puts the bulls back to the top 3 in the east when he returns for the next 5-10 years. I just look at it for the long term benefit of himself and the organization, dude should have enough money already to last him a long time.

 

As far as the practice thing goes, you see guys cleared for practice all the time. When someone comes back from an injury, they are cleared for practice and when they feel 90%+ or whatever it is, they can resume playing.

 

Maybe I sympathize a bit more because I am in the process of recovering from the same injury, but it's about the worst injury you can have in the sport.

 

I hear you.

 

 

 

Fair or not because of who he is and how good he is he will be compared to others who have had the same or similar injury. It's the nature of the beast.

Then they cut out a graft from your hamstring and drill it to have it replace where your ACL was.

 

Some athletes will get an ACL from a cadaver (e.g. Carson Palmer) which I believe cuts down on some of that time away. I don't know whether DRose did this or had the hamstring graft. I had the hamstring graft.

If you are scrimmaging against NBA players in practice, for the past two months, you should be playing. That's the end of the discussion for me. If you can't play, you need to quit doing that and doing more therapy.

If you are scrimmaging against NBA players in practice, for the past two months, you should be playing. That's the end of the discussion for me. If you can't play, you need to quit doing that and doing more therapy.

 

That's what I'm saying.

I know this will probably make zero sense but I think it might actually be easier for a football player to come back than a basketball player. I know that sounds dumb, but basketball players are making a ton more cuts, jumping and potentially landing on others feet. Combined that with box outs, being blind sided on picks, its a lot of wear and tear on a week, unconfident knee. His knee has been through two traumas. The injury and then the surgery.

 

I know someone is going to say yeah, but you are getting hit in football. Very true, but you are constantly moving and cutting on that knee throughout a full basketball game, not the case for Wes Welker or even AP.

 

Either way, I think it's in DRose's best interest to finish the season and make sure he's 100% healthy moving forward. I'm telling ya, it isn't easy to get back out there and play, especially when you're career is on the line.

 

3 ACL tears, one playing football(got clipped) the other 2 playing basketball, guy ran into the side of my knee while I was coming down with a rebound and the other I pulled up at the free throw line and my knee just kept on going. To me basketball scared me more than anything. The amount of time spent elevating, cutting and landing on an uncertain surface that takes place in basketball was frightening. Playing rb if I felt vulnerable I was just going to lower my shoulder if I saw it coming. Just felt a lot more in control playing football than I did basketball. As for Rosé I get why people think he should be playing but I can't blame him for not yet. Not sure how too many folks can until they've been through it as well.

Listening to Mike & Mike this morning....two words. Grant Hill.