Many people believe Obama is the great President for the poor. I believe that is partially true...a lot more of us will be poor before he is done.

Obama has put more folks on welfare and food stamps than any President in history... Gotta keep the voter base up for the Dems...

Many people believe Obama is the great President for the poor. I believe that is partially true...a lot more of us will be poor before he is done.

 

I agree with this assertion. President Obama is not "great" in any way, shape or form. He is pretending to be a modern day Robin Hood. But, in reality, he is taking from everyone. The more poor there are, the more votes he (and the Democrats) get, because he promises them free stuff. I am not sure what is to be gained by the class warfare that he is promoting.

I thought about this thread as I was talking with my wife who is a kindergarten teacher. One of her pupils brought this point up actually. The child was talking about how great Obama is. So she asked him what he thought was great about him. The child remarked that his daddy told him that Obama was for poor people. Then he said to my wife...."I'll bet you voted for Romney". I guess the good news is that the child knows who was in the election...pretty impressive for a 5-year old. I just hope he gets to make up his own mind some day.

President Obama has this Pied Piper, Jim Jones, Wizard of Oz thing going on. He has a cult following that I don't understand. He is arrogant and condescending. Having said that, the Republicans didn't have enough to break that spell. There is just no way that Obamacare was a workable plan. But I don't think it was intended to be workable. I believe the ultimate plan was to break the insurance companies and install a single payer system. I don't think this is a revelation of any kind. I just hope people wake in the next 4 years and make changes in the 2014 and 2016 elections.

I blame the republicans. Obama is so awful yet the republicans weren't smart enough to be able to produce a candidate that could beat him. Well done, GOP. Well done. That should show all of you how much the opposing party cares about your complaints about the great Obama.

I guess the good news is that the child knows who was in the election...pretty impressive for a 5-year old. I just hope he gets to make up his own mind some day.

 

True. As a school teacher in a rural county, I've never once spoken with a student who voted Republican just because their parents did.

 

I would add the sarcasm emoticon but I couldn't find it.

I blame the republicans. Obama is so awful yet the republicans weren't smart enough to be able to produce a candidate that could beat him. Well done, GOP. Well done. That should show all of you how much the opposing party cares about your complaints about the great Obama.

 

I am not sure that a candidate exists that could beat the great and might Obs last election: 1) "The party for the poor" is going to win the vote of the poor and uneducated; 2) self-proclaimed liberals are missing the logic chip to make a rational decision; 3) the press causes any Republican an upstream swim; 4) The black vote was almost 100% for Obama, I can't explain why. Even then, it was pretty close, and the Republicans could have won the election if they had 1) reached out to hispanics; and 2) taken a more moderate stance on abortion rights. That shows to me how weak an incumbent he really is....

I am not sure that a candidate exists that could beat the great and might Obs last election: 1) "The party for the poor" is going to win the vote of the poor and uneducated; 2) self-proclaimed liberals are missing the logic chip to make a rational decision; 3) the press causes any Republican an upstream swim; 4) The black vote was almost 100% for Obama, I can't explain why. Even then, it was pretty close, and the Republicans could have won the election if they had 1) reached out to hispanics; and 2) taken a more moderate stance on abortion rights. That shows to me how weak an incumbent he really is....

 

Wow. I don't even know where to start with this. I guess I'll tackle it like you eat an elephant...one bite at a time.

 

1) The premise that the poor and uneducated are the bulk of the voting bloc is just crazy. There are just as many poor and uneducated who vote Republican. They just don't get the scrutiny that is given to the poor and uneducated that vote Democrat do. There is a more than insignificant number of well-educated and/or wealthy people who voted for Obama. Insane to make such a sweeping generalization.

 

2) Self-proclaimed liberals, and many individuals not really liberal, but pigeon-holed into the term are not devoid of logic. The fact of the matter is, the logic doesn't add up with what the Republican party has proposed the last two elections. You (the R party) can't put forth a platform that in any way presents a "good deal" for the entire country, only those at the top of the dollar heap. That's not the fault of the voting public. That's the fault of the Republican party. Figure it out, and present something that'll work for the country as a whole. Many people I know voted for Obama for the simple reason that the Republican party's platform was harsh and ignored the problems of 99% of America.

 

3) The press? Really? That's like blaming the outcome of a game on the refs.

 

4) Someday, maybe it won't matter what % of blacks for for whomever, and we'll just look at it as a % of Americans voted for whomever. Keep harping on the racial aspects, and continue alienating that block.

 

Republicans are just NOW figuring out that Hispanics are important? Shoot! Hispanics have been growing in number in this country for nigh-on 2 centuries. Seems to me the Republican party has finally figured out that white men are not going to be the voting bloc for much longer, and are scrambling to glad-hand and secure another bloc. If I were the blacks...I'd be wondering why they're skipping me. I'm a white woman, and wonder why they skip me. :lol: As for abortion rights, that's one aspect of voting consciousness. But, there's a whole 'nother realm of social consciousness that Republicans need to reach.

The republicans could have won the election if they had at least tried to get the black vote and disprove beliefs about the Republican Party. They didn't even try. If anything republicans have hurt themselves more in recent years and have even more work to do in the future to get more than 5% of the black vote going forward. Not to mention the tone from republicans and those who despise Obama makes the Republican Party and it's members all just look so petty. I've learned how not to sound when my candidate doesn't win in the future. The whole we're right and you guys are idiots approach the Republican Party has embraced for the last 8 years is annoying and nothing I'd want to get behind. Republicans could be absolutely right about everything that is wrong but the condescending tone turns me off and doesn't allow me to hear, read or understand anything they are saying.

Wow. I don't even know where to start with this. I guess I'll tackle it like you eat an elephant...one bite at a time.

 

1) The premise that the poor and uneducated are the bulk of the voting bloc is just crazy. There are just as many poor and uneducated who vote Republican. They just don't get the scrutiny that is given to the poor and uneducated that vote Democrat do. There is a more than insignificant number of well-educated and/or wealthy people who voted for Obama. Insane to make such a sweeping generalization.

 

2) Self-proclaimed liberals, and many individuals not really liberal, but pigeon-holed into the term are not devoid of logic. The fact of the matter is, the logic doesn't add up with what the Republican party has proposed the last two elections. You (the R party) can't put forth a platform that in any way presents a "good deal" for the entire country, only those at the top of the dollar heap. That's not the fault of the voting public. That's the fault of the Republican party. Figure it out, and present something that'll work for the country as a whole. Many people I know voted for Obama for the simple reason that the Republican party's platform was harsh and ignored the problems of 99% of America.

 

3) The press? Really? That's like blaming the outcome of a game on the refs.

 

4) Someday, maybe it won't matter what % of blacks for for whomever, and we'll just look at it as a % of Americans voted for whomever. Keep harping on the racial aspects, and continue alienating that block.

 

Republicans are just NOW figuring out that Hispanics are important? Shoot! Hispanics have been growing in number in this country for nigh-on 2 centuries. Seems to me the Republican party has finally figured out that white men are not going to be the voting bloc for much longer, and are scrambling to glad-hand and secure another bloc. If I were the blacks...I'd be wondering why they're skipping me. I'm a white woman, and wonder why they skip me. :lol: As for abortion rights, that's one aspect of voting consciousness. But, there's a whole 'nother realm of social consciousness that Republicans need to reach.

 

Word.

Wow. I don't even know where to start with this. I guess I'll tackle it like you eat an elephant...one bite at a time.

 

1) The premise that the poor and uneducated are the bulk of the voting bloc is just crazy. There are just as many poor and uneducated who vote Republican. They just don't get the scrutiny that is given to the poor and uneducated that vote Democrat do. There is a more than insignificant number of well-educated and/or wealthy people who voted for Obama. Insane to make such a sweeping generalization.

 

2) Self-proclaimed liberals, and many individuals not really liberal, but pigeon-holed into the term are not devoid of logic. The fact of the matter is, the logic doesn't add up with what the Republican party has proposed the last two elections. You (the R party) can't put forth a platform that in any way presents a "good deal" for the entire country, only those at the top of the dollar heap. That's not the fault of the voting public. That's the fault of the Republican party. Figure it out, and present something that'll work for the country as a whole. Many people I know voted for Obama for the simple reason that the Republican party's platform was harsh and ignored the problems of 99% of America.

 

3) The press? Really? That's like blaming the outcome of a game on the refs.

 

4) Someday, maybe it won't matter what % of blacks for for whomever, and we'll just look at it as a % of Americans voted for whomever. Keep harping on the racial aspects, and continue alienating that block.

 

Republicans are just NOW figuring out that Hispanics are important? Shoot! Hispanics have been growing in number in this country for nigh-on 2 centuries. Seems to me the Republican party has finally figured out that white men are not going to be the voting bloc for much longer, and are scrambling to glad-hand and secure another bloc. If I were the blacks...I'd be wondering why they're skipping me. I'm a white woman, and wonder why they skip me. :lol: As for abortion rights, that's one aspect of voting consciousness. But, there's a whole 'nother realm of social consciousness that Republicans need to reach.

 

I don't eat elephant, and they are a protected species :sssh:

 

Color us insane then because I see just as many generalizations in your post as I made in mine. And, I consider myself independent BTW. I will vote for any candidate who I believe is the best choice for all of American and its future. Clearly, I have stated I do not believe Obama is that person. The last time I felt so strongly negative about a candidate was Jimmy Carter, and I was right. I never felt McCain was a good choice, but I thought Romney was a better choice than Obama. However, the Republican right had too much say in the platform, and I don't agree with much of it, and obviously many voters had the same feeling. But having said that, I would have taken the gamble that Romney would stay in the center socially while I know Obama will stay to the left. I do not believe the liberal policies are in the best interests of the future of this country.

 

Why do you believe white women are being skipped?

 

You don't have to answer that, but another generalization...it seems to me that the majority (via the election) of people are all wanting to know what the government is going to do for them. Wasn't it a great Democratic President JFK who said ask not what your country can do for you, but ask what you can do for your country. Where is that thinking nowadays?

 

BTW, referees DO affect outcomes of games...and they are human and show favoritism sometimes. I will quote Albert E. on this one "unquestioning respect for authority is the greatest enemy of truth". We should always be looking for ways to help referees to do a better job. Turning a blind eye isn't it.

Edited March 25, 201313 yr by doomer

I am not sure that a candidate exists that could beat the great and might Obs last election: 1) "The party for the poor" is going to win the vote of the poor and uneducated; 2) self-proclaimed liberals are missing the logic chip to make a rational decision; 3) the press causes any Republican an upstream swim; 4) The black vote was almost 100% for Obama, I can't explain why. Even then, it was pretty close, and the Republicans could have won the election if they had 1) reached out to hispanics; and 2) taken a more moderate stance on abortion rights. That shows to me how weak an incumbent he really is....

 

Your argument boils down to this: "Liberals" are stupid. (And I wonder which of your interlocutors on BGP you would label as stupid.) Instead of reassessing components of the opposition's platform, dealing with the realities of public opinion on some issues, or attempting to change public opinion on certain issues, you're doubling down on what has led to eight years - and quite probably more - of a Democratic White House. You might manage to convince yourselves the majority of the country is shiftless and stupid, but that's not an effective platform.

Doomer nailed it . Libs just don't like it .

I blame the republicans. Obama is so awful yet the republicans weren't smart enough to be able to produce a candidate that could beat him. Well done, GOP. Well done. That should show all of you how much the opposing party cares about your complaints about the great Obama.

 

PurplePride92 I could not get the reply with quote to work, But you are 100% correct with this post. Romney was not the right candidate and the Republicans should have compromised on some issues. They also did a terrible job of communicating their ideas. While I think the Republican positions were best for the country, if you cannot communicate them properly, you will not win.