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Why did Cincy X and Cincy Elder drop Trinity?

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I can understand my rambling can confuse even myself, but the fact of the matter is, the statement was made that OH teams schedule KY teams when they are certain to win. NOT TRUE! Take Cincy X for example (ya know, from the topic?) Everybody is saying X cancelled. Okay, it's in Cincinnati @ X, with X returning 70% of their team with many more having some varsity playing time during 2012 when X only lost to Trinity by 1 in the final seconds. What logic is there in X cancelling the game? No doubt, it would be another great game but that was my logic I was attempting to explain.

 

These teams were not almost certain to win anything.

 

2007 - X win

2008 - X lost

2009 - X win

2010 - X lost

2011 - X lost

2012 - X lost

 

4-2 vs Cincy X. Obviously the OH team was not certain to win. Trinity is a great team. I'm not discrediting that, just discrediting your assumption. I hate to see it go.

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I can understand my rambling can confuse even myself, but the fact of the matter is, the statement was made that OH teams schedule KY teams when they are certain to win. NOT TRUE! Take Cincy X for example (ya know, from the topic?) Everybody is saying X cancelled. Okay, it's in Cincinnati @ X, with X returning 70% of their team with many more having some varsity playing time during 2012 when X only lost to Trinity by 1 in the final seconds. What logic is there in X cancelling the game? No doubt, it would be another great game but that was my logic I was attempting to explain.

 

These teams were not almost certain to win anything.

 

2007 - X win

2008 - X lost

2009 - X win

2010 - X lost

2011 - X lost

2012 - X lost

 

4-2 vs Cincy X. Obviously the OH team was not certain to win. Trinity is a great team. I'm not discrediting that, just discrediting your assumption. I hate to see it go.

 

Again, it was almost certain to win.

 

And thank you for making my case, you are right, X no longer feels they are almost certain to win and they dropped Trinity from their schedule.

Oh whatever! I'll just agree to disagree. Sully (AD) has already confirmed X didn't back out of any game.

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Oh whatever! I'll just agree to disagree. Sully (AD) has already confirmed X didn't back out of any game.

 

Assuming you talked to the X powers that be and RockPride talked to the Trinity powers that be one of the schools is telling a story...

Assuming you talked to the X powers that be and RockPride talked to the Trinity powers that be one of the schools is telling a story...

 

And one of the schools is still looking for a game, so unless they wanted to be searching for a game I would think they wouldn't back out of one they could have had! :thumb:

I totally agree with Guru

 

Not that either school was scared but in the end it's a business decision.

 

Was great while it lasted! Here's hoping Moeller keeps coming this way.

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I will add to this, I think ego/pride gets in the way.

 

I am sure it is a hard pill to swallow for the Cincy X powers that be to admit to anyone they dropped Trinity for whatever reason...

RockPride, I am sorry you feel this way. I am just telling you what the parent told me. I did not post this to play a game but to add to the conversation in an informative manner - based on an actual conversation. I did speak with the parent and have no reason to make this up. I have no dog in this fight. I personally want to see Trinity play the OH teams.

 

 

I spoke with our AD and Coach...and they are adamant that didn't happen. See how this game works.....oh and I did speak with those that I said I did.
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RockPride, I am sorry you feel this way. I am just telling you what the parent told me. I did not post this to play a game but to add to the conversation in an informative manner - based on an actual conversation. I did speak with the parent and have no reason to make this up. I have no dog in this fight. I personally want to see Trinity play the OH teams.

 

RockPride can be a little abrasive but we love him anyway.

 

I am sure the talk in Bomberland is that Trinity dropped them. One thing I am certain of and that is RockPride has a relationship with the powers that be at Trinity and if he says he talked to them he did. With that in mind it appears pretty obvious that officials at one of the schools are having a problem with the truth assuming the powers that be at Cincy X are pointing the finger at Trinity.

Here is a question: as it stands right now, is Cincy St. Xavier or Louisville Trinity looking for games to fill out the schedule? I have read here that Trinity has multiple openings in its 2013 schedule (I don't know if this is true, but it has been written on BGP). I have not heard anything about Saint X's schedule. If Cincy St. X's schedule is currently full and Trinity's schedule has openings, then it would seem unusual for Trinity to be the party that nixed this game being played in 2013. I would have to think that most teams (especially teams of Trinity's caliber) would prefer to play a game against a challenging opponent than to play no game at all.

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Here is a question: as it stands right now, is Cincy St. Xavier or Louisville Trinity looking for games to fill out the schedule? I have read here that Trinity has multiple openings in its 2013 schedule (I don't know if this is true, but it has been written on BGP). I have not heard anything about Saint X's schedule. If Cincy St. X's schedule is currently full and Trinity's schedule has openings, then it would seem unusual for Trinity to be the party that nixed this game being played in 2013. I would have to think that most teams (especially teams of Trinity's caliber) would prefer to play a game against a challenging opponent than to play no game at all.

 

That is what Junkie pointed out above:

 

http://bluegrasspreps.com/ky-football-high/why-did-cincy-250386.html#post4610710

They are misinformed. A quick review of Trinity's scheduling situaton should be proof enough. The Bombers could have asked for more money than Trinity was willing to pay. It is often not as simple as home and home. Specht hates losing.

And one of the schools is still looking for a game, so unless they wanted to be searching for a game I would think they wouldn't back out of one they could have had! :thumb:

 

That must be Trinity because St. X has had Brentwood Academy, TN scheduled in week 4 since January when the schedule was released. St. X has all 10 games and has for a while. So before you go spouting about something you have no knowledge of, do a little research.

 

Indeed, somebody is telling stories. X is playing the 3 top teams in Indiana (Indy Cathedral, Warren Central, Ben Davis) on top of Brentwood Academy, TN and Colerain and St. Ignatius and the rest of the 3 GCL league games and Lou St. X. If you can count, that makes 10. None of those games are guaranteed wins either since they trade wins back and forth between Lou X and St. Ignatius, Colerain and the rest. They've never played Ben Davis or Brentwood and Warren Central hasn't been played in over 10 years. An awful lot of tough competition to be scared of losing. Maybe that's not the issue afterall (thank you very much).

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X ducks nobody. Look at the list of teams X has faced and either won or lost. You don't schedule these teams thinking you're always going to win:

 

2005 Colerain (ranked #11 in the nation)

2006 Lakeland, FL (2005 #1 ranked team in nation, ranked #3 at the game) X lost

2007 DeMatha Catholic, MD (ranked #5 in the nation) X won

2008 Colerain (ranked #18 in the nation) X lost

2008 Prattville, AL (ranked #2 at end of 2007) X won

2008 Don Bosco Prep (ranked #4 in the nation) X won

2009 Colerain (ranked #13 in the nation) X won

2010 Our Lady of Good Counsel (ranked #25 in the nation) X lost

2011 Trinity (#1 in the nation) X lost

2012 Trinity (#1 in the nation) X lost

 

Losing to top ranked teams does not bother Specht. St. X still leads the X/T series 6-3. Good luck against Colerain in 2013. They run the triple-option and their QB can run and throw. It will be a great matchup but I got my chips on Colerain.

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X ducks nobody. Look at the list of teams X has faced and either won or lost. You don't schedule these teams thinking you're always going to win:

 

2005 Colerain (ranked #11 in the nation)

2006 Lakeland, FL (2005 #1 ranked team in nation, ranked #3 at the game) X lost

2007 DeMatha Catholic, MD (ranked #5 in the nation) X won

2008 Colerain (ranked #18 in the nation) X lost

2008 Prattville, AL (ranked #2 at end of 2007) X won

2008 Don Bosco Prep (ranked #4 in the nation) X won

2009 Colerain (ranked #13 in the nation) X won

2010 Our Lady of Good Counsel (ranked #25 in the nation) X lost

2011 Trinity (#1 in the nation) X lost

2012 Trinity (#1 in the nation) X lost

 

Losing to top ranked teams does not bother Specht. St. X still leads the X/T series 6-3. Good luck against Colerain in 2013. They run the triple-option and their QB can run and throw. It will be a great matchup but I got my chips on Colerain.

 

You forgot Highlands #3 nationally abused the Bombers in 2009.

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