Someone please tell me what kids are currently at HHS walking the halls that would make an impact on the varsity team right now. I would love to hear some answers to this question. It is easy to make these statements, but can someone give an answer because I would love to hear them. The baseball program is on the uptick because there are kids at HHS that are dedicated to the baseball program first and any other activity comes in second. The basketball program does not have that kid or kids thus you have a team of athletes playing against a team of basketball players. Highlands has an inability to score the basketball that is only partly the result of the offense, the other is there simply are not many good shooters in the program as evidenced by the poor free throw shooting. IMO, the defense is even worse than the offense. Picking up a good guard full court lead to deep penetration into the lane and either a layup or kick out to the 3 point line for a wide open jumper which many good "basketball" players can knock down. Effort has been much better the last 2 games that I have watched, but the results simply do not reflect that.

 

A final note, should all of the football programs in Northern Kentucky re-evaluate their coaches because they cannot compete with Highlands on an annual basis? If I have the Jimmies and Joes on an annual basis I can compete, if I do not, well then the result will not be good.

 

 

You raise fair questions and make valid points.

 

However, your Highlands football analogy at the end is bad. HHS basketball is struggling to compete with ANY good team.

Ditto!

 

Kinda lost its meaning when kinglouie deleted his post. Care to tell us what the king had posted?

Someone please tell me what kids are currently at HHS walking the halls that would make an impact on the varsity team right now. I would love to hear some answers to this question. It is easy to make these statements, but can someone give an answer because I would love to hear them. The baseball program is on the uptick because there are kids at HHS that are dedicated to the baseball program first and any other activity comes in second. The basketball program does not have that kid or kids thus you have a team of athletes playing against a team of basketball players. Highlands has an inability to score the basketball that is only partly the result of the offense, the other is there simply are not many good shooters in the program as evidenced by the poor free throw shooting. IMO, the defense is even worse than the offense. Picking up a good guard full court lead to deep penetration into the lane and either a layup or kick out to the 3 point line for a wide open jumper which many good "basketball" players can knock down. Effort has been much better the last 2 games that I have watched, but the results simply do not reflect that.

 

A final note, should all of the football programs in Northern Kentucky re-evaluate their coaches because they cannot compete with Highlands on an annual basis? If I have the Jimmies and Joes on an annual basis I can compete, if I do not, well then the result will not be good.

 

So in your opinion the current coach is doing a good job?

You raise fair questions and make valid points.

 

However, your Highlands football analogy at the end is bad. HHS basketball is struggling to compete with ANY good team.

 

Sorry Dixie-- you are not a good team.

Sorry Dixie-- you are not a good team.

 

All apologies to Dixie.

 

That doesn't change the point.

Someone please tell me what kids are currently at HHS walking the halls that would make an impact on the varsity team right now. I would love to hear some answers to this question. It is easy to make these statements, but can someone give an answer because I would love to hear them. The baseball program is on the uptick because there are kids at HHS that are dedicated to the baseball program first and any other activity comes in second. The basketball program does not have that kid or kids thus you have a team of athletes playing against a team of basketball players. Highlands has an inability to score the basketball that is only partly the result of the offense, the other is there simply are not many good shooters in the program as evidenced by the poor free throw shooting. IMO, the defense is even worse than the offense. Picking up a good guard full court lead to deep penetration into the lane and either a layup or kick out to the 3 point line for a wide open jumper which many good "basketball" players can knock down. Effort has been much better the last 2 games that I have watched, but the results simply do not reflect that.

 

A final note, should all of the football programs in Northern Kentucky re-evaluate their coaches because they cannot compete with Highlands on an annual basis? If I have the Jimmies and Joes on an annual basis I can compete, if I do not, well then the result will not be good.

 

If that truly is the case and there are no football players or transfering kids that would not make an impact on this years basketball team then that is great news for the Highlands Basketball program and I stand corrected. The football vs basketball discussion at Highlands can at least go away for a couple of years.

 

I am big fan of what Coach Baioni has done with the baseball program at Highlands, hence my request to get a former Highlands Basketball player to take over the program to hopefully bring some of the same type of interest back to basketball. I wonder what kind of energy or excitement Flynn brings to his summer open gym sessions or does he give the same scollding look when they dont run the offense to his liking on a blistering hot summer morning in the gym.

 

And yes I would hope that those schools and communites that consider themselves competitve in athletics in a mid/large market would take a look at any coach that cannot compete on an annual basis with any team given team in their region.

Edited January 16, 201313 yr by FTTS

Someone please tell me what kids are currently at HHS walking the halls that would make an impact on the varsity team right now. I would love to hear some answers to this question. It is easy to make these statements, but can someone give an answer because I would love to hear them. The baseball program is on the uptick because there are kids at HHS that are dedicated to the baseball program first and any other activity comes in second. The basketball program does not have that kid or kids thus you have a team of athletes playing against a team of basketball players. Highlands has an inability to score the basketball that is only partly the result of the offense, the other is there simply are not many good shooters in the program as evidenced by the poor free throw shooting. IMO, the defense is even worse than the offense. Picking up a good guard full court lead to deep penetration into the lane and either a layup or kick out to the 3 point line for a wide open jumper which many good "basketball" players can knock down. Effort has been much better the last 2 games that I have watched, but the results simply do not reflect that.

 

A final note, should all of the football programs in Northern Kentucky re-evaluate their coaches because they cannot compete with Highlands on an annual basis? If I have the Jimmies and Joes on an annual basis I can compete, if I do not, well then the result will not be good.

 

I could see Christian, Collinsworth, Hope, Hoge, Urlage and Jake Whitford all, potentially, having an impact for this years team. That is just off the top of my head and based on watching this team play this season. Just an opinion.

I could see Christian, Collinsworth, Hope, Hoge, Urlage and Jake Whitford all, potentially, having an impact for this years team. That is just off the top of my head and based on watching this team play this season. Just an opinion.

 

If they would have stuck with the sport and dedicated themselves to getting better. The thing is, Flynn isnt the type of coach who is going to "beg" kids to play basketball and that is just his MO.

If they would have stuck with the sport and dedicated themselves to getting better. The thing is, Flynn isnt the type of coach who is going to "beg" kids to play basketball and that is just his MO.

 

I can't blame him for not begging.

If they would have stuck with the sport and dedicated themselves to getting better. The thing is, Flynn isnt the type of coach who is going to "beg" kids to play basketball and that is just his MO.

 

Yet another reason for a player friendly coach or style of play.

Jack of All Trades,

I think the component some folks are referencing is not specific boys...no football/MJ's walking the HHS halls per sey, but simply that there are junior and senior football athletes that played basketball their entire youth lives - including years of AAU hoops & frosh/soph HS basketball, and now they are OPTING OUT. In the eighties & for twenty plus years, until recently those HHS athletes always OPTED-IN hoops. ALL IN. Jeff Kremer, Daugherty, Burkhardt, Maile, Beagle, Smith, Lorenzen and on and on and on. The athletes couldn't wait to get to the hardwood. But now, they opt out. The senior class now, as sophomores, Donovan McCoy, D. Christian, Collinsworth - all dominant frosh hoopsters, then started JV as Sophomores, dressed varsity - and then -OUT. Gone is that experience and minutes, simply gone. Zach Carter - a senior this year - took all his Junior varsity minutes last year and OUT. Seth Hope - out. Gone is all that AAU experience, the frosh year of PT - then OUT. A black hole. The frosh Weyer - OUT. Gone. Some wish to say they are pursuing football. Could be, but also, it's as simple as they have no desire or reason to pursue basketball. Just ask them. Seth Hope is my son's best friend. It's not a pretty answer. The next HHS coach has to provide a ******* lot more than X's and O's. He has to provide a COMMUNITY. A culture. Leadership. CONVERSATION? This isn't a private school program where hoops is king and the players abundant..... What is the current HHS basketball culture? Compare it to football/Dale's approach...enuff said. All I care about is that that kids and players are comfortable on and off the floor and they are having FUN. Watch the games - how we doin? Ask the boys. I have a wonderful junior boy - in his third year of dressing hhs varsity hoops. Third year with Coach Flynn. Flynn and Hunt have been very good to him. He enjoys playing. FUN? LOVE? FAMILY? Not sure. It will take a passionate, intelligent, social & infectious personality that LEADS young men and builds community again and again and again at HHS and throughout Ft. Thomas. Yep - it's real work these days - just ask any high school coach. The X's and O's are the easy part. "Opting-out" is not simply at HHS. It's everywhere for sure, but it is running rampant at HHS and it creates BLACK HOLES that lead to 40 point losses to Cov Cath at home. Ouch. The varsity may be no better with these aforementioned student-athletes, but NO PROGRAM can sustain losing those minutes and experience year after year after year. I wish them all the very best.

And finally - in regards to all this HHS Hoops blog/dialogue...as Dave Letterman says - all this story needs - IS AN ENDING! Please.

Can someone please tell me if the rumor I heard last night about next year being Flynn’s last year coaching due to his retirement from his “day job” is true or not?

 

I already thought he retired from his other job. Thought he did that last year.

If they would have stuck with the sport and dedicated themselves to getting better. The thing is, Flynn isnt the type of coach who is going to "beg" kids to play basketball and that is just his MO.

 

Who said anything about begging? You have to play a fun style of ball. Make them want to come to practice and open gyms, relate to the kids and put the kids in a position to succeed. The point is there are kids roaming the halls that could help the team. For whatever reason they decided they did not want to play. Question is why? All of them played AAU ball. All of them are, obviously, are very gifted athletes and had some success, in the past, playing hoops. AND from what I witnessed, enjoyed playing the game. Just my two cents, not placing blame on anyone. Just an opinion based on observations over the course of a few years....

Jack of All Trades,

I think the component some folks are referencing is not specific boys...no football/MJ's walking the HHS halls per sey, but simply that there are junior and senior football athletes that played basketball their entire youth lives - including years of AAU hoops & frosh/soph HS basketball, and now they are OPTING OUT. In the eighties & for twenty plus years, until recently those HHS athletes always OPTED-IN hoops. ALL IN. Jeff Kremer, Daugherty, Burkhardt, Maile, Beagle, Smith, Lorenzen and on and on and on. The athletes couldn't wait to get to the hardwood. But now, they opt out. The senior class now, as sophomores, Donovan McCoy, D. Christian, Collinsworth - all dominant frosh hoopsters, then started JV as Sophomores, dressed varsity - and then -OUT. Gone is that experience and minutes, simply gone. Zach Carter - a senior this year - took all his Junior varsity minutes last year and OUT. Seth Hope - out. Gone is all that AAU experience, the frosh year of PT - then OUT. A black hole. The frosh Weyer - OUT. Gone. Some wish to say they are pursuing football. Could be, but also, it's as simple as they have no desire or reason to pursue basketball. Just ask them. Seth Hope is my son's best friend. It's not a pretty answer. The next HHS coach has to provide a ******* lot more than X's and O's. He has to provide a COMMUNITY. A culture. Leadership. CONVERSATION? This isn't a private school program where hoops is king and the players abundant..... What is the current HHS basketball culture? Compare it to football/Dale's approach...enuff said. All I care about is that that kids and players are comfortable on and off the floor and they are having FUN. Watch the games - how we doin? Ask the boys. I have a wonderful junior boy - in his third year of dressing hhs varsity hoops. Third year with Coach Flynn. Flynn and Hunt have been very good to him. He enjoys playing. FUN? LOVE? FAMILY? Not sure. It will take a passionate, intelligent, social & infectious personality that LEADS young men and builds community again and again and again at HHS and throughout Ft. Thomas. Yep - it's real work these days - just ask any high school coach. The X's and O's are the easy part. "Opting-out" is not simply at HHS. It's everywhere for sure, but it is running rampant at HHS and it creates BLACK HOLES that lead to 40 point losses to Cov Cath at home. Ouch. The varsity may be no better with these aforementioned student-athletes, but NO PROGRAM can sustain losing those minutes and experience year after year after year. I wish them all the very best.

And finally - in regards to all this HHS Hoops blog/dialogue...as Dave Letterman says - all this story needs - IS AN ENDING! Please.

 

Not sure how I forgot about Donovan, but yeah....I did. What an athlete he is (that use to play hoops at a high level)!

Blah Blah Blah. Most of Ken Shields teams were NOT primarily football players. What they were, were skilled basketball players. Usually teams laden with top ten regional talent, yes a handful played football players, but that program was built around basketball players. Those days are gone. A 40 point loss to Cov Cath should not just be sloughed off. It's bad.