I guess Clizzy fell asleep on us at the computer. I want to know the answer.

 

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From MQ: BE official Karl Hess said officials responsible for wrong direction of players, UConn OT goal tend basket should have counted.

I guess Clizzy fell asleep on us at the computer. I want to know the answer.

 

Old farts like Clizzy can fall asleep at the drop of a hat. Young pups like me, on the other hand, wake up at 3 in the morning on a semi-regular basis. :irked:

IMO that's where it's tricky. If he would have made it, the other team would have got 2pts if I'm correct. If that's the case then yes, I would assume it'd have to be goaltending.

 

Would it be considered Offensive Goaltending? Since the defensive player is actually the offensive player on that end?

So team B gets the points for blocking a shot at their own basket?

 

Yes. Because if it's at their own basket it is offensive interference. Still goaltending.

I saw this happen in a high school game. The fans were screaming that the teams were going the wrong way. The coaches never did protest that I could hear. There was one shot, it was a miss, the officials recognized the mistake. Only 30 seconds had come off the clock, the met with both coaches, then retipped and started the OT over. I imagine had there been a bucket scored it would have been more difficult to start over.

I saw this happen in a high school game. The fans were screaming that the teams were going the wrong way. The coaches never did protest that I could hear. There was one shot, it was a miss, the officials recognized the mistake. Only 30 seconds had come off the clock, the met with both coaches, then retipped and started the OT over. I imagine had there been a bucket scored it would have been more difficult to start over.

 

I envisioned this type of scenario with Clizzy's situation. Which is why my initial response was to start over.

The basket should have counted. It should have been goaltending.

 

Why?

 

Key: Once the officials let the jumpers line up the wrong way then the shooter was going the "right way" until told otherwise. So it should have been goaltending. 2 points for the shooting team. Turn them around the correct way and play on.

 

There is NEVER a time where you simply start over. The rulebook has a specific ruling on exactly this type of situation. Everything that happens counts. You just simply get them going the right way.

Let me make one change to the situation and see if it changes anyone's opinion.

 

Let's say the jumpers were faced the right way. A1 controls the tip and tips it backwards to his PG.

 

PG gets confused and goes the wrong way and B1 blocks the shot after the ball was on its downward flight.

 

Unlike in the original case where it should have been goaltending it would NOT be goaltending in this case.

 

Why?

 

The rulebook says that goaltending takes place on a "try" or shot attempt.

 

The rulebook says the only time you have a "try" is when the ball is being shot at the correct basket.

 

So in this case you just let them keep playing. No goaltending.

I agree, as long as the shooting team gets the points I think everything is fine. As Clyde stated once the referees let them go the wrong way then it is now the right way.

I asked a similar question to an official after a youth league game I witnessed. A player went to the wrong basket and shot and was fouled in the act of shooting. The official did not really have an answer. After checking on it, he called me back and said that it could be a foul but the player would not shoot free throws because it technically is not a legal shot. So Im guessing that it would not be a legal shot at the wrong end so it would not be goal tending.

I asked a similar question to an official after a youth league game I witnessed. A player went to the wrong basket and shot and was fouled in the act of shooting. The official did not really have an answer. After checking on it, he called me back and said that it could be a foul but the player would not shoot free throws because it technically is not a legal shot. So Im guessing that it would not be a legal shot at the wrong end so it would not be goal tending.

 

 

Assuming the player who went the wrong way didn't do so as a result of the teams lining up the wrong way on the jump ball then the official was correct. It is not a shooting foul. It is still a foul and could result in a bonus FT but it is not a 2-shot foul since it was not a "try."

 

In the original situation presented in #1 it was indeed goaltending.

It is Goalending. PTS have to be awarded.

Unlike in the original case where it should have been goaltending it would NOT be goaltending in this case.

 

Why?

 

The rulebook says that goaltending takes place on a "try" or shot attempt.

 

The rulebook says the only time you have a "try" is when the ball is being shot at the correct basket.

 

So in this case you just let them keep playing. No goaltending.

 

Interesting.

So did I get both of them right?

What if a player goes to shoot at the wrong basket and his teammate fouls him while he is shooting or before he shoots to stop him from shooting? Can it be a foul? Flagrant foul? Intentional foul? Or is that a play on situation since they are teammates and it is at the wrong goal?