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Scientists say No ice at North Pole by 2016

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I have a friend who legitimately believes the Earth is only a few thousand years old. It is impossible to have any kind of serious conversation with him about scientifically proven facts or ideas without his religious beliefs trumping any reasonable sense he, as a human being, should have.

 

Whether or not you think global warming is true or not, first realize that carbon and other gases keep our planet warm, then think about what would happen if there were more of these elements in the atmosphere, and yes, you are right, that equates to a warmer planet. We produce billions of tons of extra carbon every year that this planet has never experienced in the billions of years of its existence, and the neglectful thinking that dominates our culture is the reason that the environment and the economy both are on irreversible and inevitable paths to destruction.

 

Sure. We're adding extra carbon-dioxide. Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere makes the earth warmer. Adding five to a billion makes a billion a little bigger too, but does it really have a large effect?

 

Global warming could definitely be happening, but let's not act like it's a scientific fact. It's not.

 

An interesting article I read earlier this year.

 

Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling - Forbes

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I have a question. How many of you believe there was an ice age?

 

I do, I think the earth has its nature cycles.

 

 

However it wasn't an astroid that killed the dinos, it was tarzan. Right after Jane left him for an ompa lompa, he went on a war path and killed them all.

I do, I think the earth has its nature cycles.

 

 

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IF that is the case, is this not a cycle?
Sure. We're adding extra carbon-dioxide. Carbon Dioxide in the atmosphere makes the earth warmer. Adding five to a billion makes a billion a little bigger too, but does it really have a large effect?

 

Global warming could definitely be happening, but let's not act like it's a scientific fact. It's not.

 

An interesting article I read earlier this year.

 

Sorry Global Warming Alarmists, The Earth Is Cooling - Forbes

 

However, it's obvious that we're having an effect on the environment. I just think it's a bit hasty to know exactly the size of it.

 

When I say "Global Warming", I mean it in the doom and gloom sense that's often portrayed.

 

I just think it's a bit hasty to act like we know exactly the size of it.

Since it's fowl, and after reading all the posts, I'm certain that the first pic is of 'Run To State'...

 

Simply because no one knows the complete truth on the matter is no excuse to dismiss it as quacky. Doing so is terribly irresponsible. Isn't it a bit ironic that RTS seems to imply, just like so many other non-visionaries in history, that those who seek the truth are quacks?

:lol: Or RTS has read both sides (many, many articles from many, many sources) of the argument for several years now and has come to his informed decision on the matter. So, in essence, that puts you as the one and only candidate for both pictures. Enjoy that gritty, earthy taste, it's likely to linger.... :D
:lol: Or RTS has read both sides (many, many articles from many, many sources) of the argument for several years now and has come to his informed decision on the matter.
Exactly.

Have to admit, I saw a penguin yesterday walking down Glenway Ave with a shirt on that said, "It's getting hot in here"

Have to admit, I saw a penguin yesterday walking down Glenway Ave with a shirt on that said, "It's getting hot in here"

 

That was Nelly.

4 years from now when there still is an ice cap at the North Pole will you guys give me back all the tax dollars that have been wasted on this garbage?

:lol: Or RTS has read both sides (many, many articles from many, many sources) of the argument for several years now and has come to his informed decision on the matter. So, in essence, that puts you as the one and only candidate for both pictures. Enjoy that gritty, earthy taste, it's likely to linger.... :D

 

I respect that you've done your homework, and most likely more than I have, but by your responses I wonder if your studies have been done with an open mind, or just a quick slanted reception to literature that only supports your instincts to mock those who you probably refer to as tree hugging, granola eating lefties that don't support what I'm guessing to be your right of the road tendencies. I would think that with so much input that you'd perhaps be divided a bit on the topic and could see both sides. I see nothing in your approach that indicates as much, telling me that you're not as objective on the matter as you claim to be.

I respect that you've done your homework, and most likely more than I have, but by your responses I wonder if your studies have been done with an open mind, or just a quick slanted reception to literature that only supports your instincts to mock those who you probably refer to as tree hugging, granola eating lefties that don't support what I'm guessing to be your right of the road tendencies. I would think that with so much input that you'd perhaps be divided a bit on the topic and could see both sides. I see nothing in your approach that indicates as much, telling me that you're not as objective on the matter as you claim to be.
I really don't care what you see or think of me, it's not important to me or the topic. Since you've obviously made your mind up, funny how you can see me that way, but not yourself. It's always the other guy that's one sided, huh? If you truly respected my homework or my opinion, you wouldn't respond the way you do. So how's that mirror working out for you?

Been away for a couple of days, and it's pretty sad how disrespectful this thread has become!

 

I agree with the posters who believe in reading a lot of information from different sources, because they all have their slant. Does anyone believe the energy providers aren't filling the pipeline as much in their own best interests as scientists who want more grant money?

 

I was not a strong believer of global warming, as I was one of the people who believed the climate is cyclical. I still believe it is cyclical, but on an increasingly warmer trend. I also believe the Earth's increasing population is reducing the planet's ability to purge what we are putting in the environment. I don't believe in a doomsday, but I believe our planet, without changes by mankind, is going to be an increasingly unhealthier place to live.

I really don't care what you see or think of me, it's not important to me or the topic. Since you've obviously made your mind up, funny how you can see me that way, but not yourself. It's always the other guy that's one sided, huh? If you truly respected my homework or my opinion, you wouldn't respond the way you do. So how's that mirror working out for you?

 

I'm divided on the topic, not slanted, which helps me to stay objective. You are obviously slanted and subjective, and as you put it "the topic is not important to you". That's your prerogative, but for something that is unimportant to you, you sure have been quick in this thread to display your slant. Perhaps that's just your knee-jerk righty-side taking any opportunity to display its superiority complex. Not that it's ever historically been appealing, but more and more as years go by it's becoming more and more appalling, and gets the advancement of humanity and/or the planet nowhere. We'll do our best to progress, but with no thanks to you.

4 years from now when there still is an ice cap at the North Pole will you guys give me back all the tax dollars that have been wasted on this garbage?

 

Perhaps you should read the article and not just the title.

I'm divided on the topic, not slanted, which helps me to stay objective. You are obviously slanted and subjective, and as you put it "the topic is not important to you". That's your prerogative, but for something that is unimportant to you, you sure have been quick in this thread to display your slant. Perhaps that's just your knee-jerk righty-side taking any opportunity to display its superiority complex. Not that it's ever historically been appealing, but more and more as years go by it's becoming more and more appalling, and gets the advancement of humanity and/or the planet nowhere. We'll do our best to progress, but with no thanks to you.
Wow.

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