Classic move, Michael, and fully expected. Ignore the fact that you can't answer a simple question .

 

Come on. Man up. Tell us how Gov Romney showed he was well-versed on business and how he showed us he had the solutions. You made the assertion, right? Heck, even BGH backs up his lunacy with links. You're better than that, right?

 

He's killing you. Like Lucky said, I'm not playing your game.

He's killing you. Like Lucky said, I'm not playing your game.

 

As expected from somone who has admitted they really don't do much research - just spout off what others have said.

 

You need to move into the kiddie pool area so you don't get hurt.

He's killing you. Like Lucky said, I'm not playing your game.

 

I do enjoy the new definition of "game:"

 

Back up what you say.

 

It's certainly not for everyone.

I'm glad Clyde found another person to feud with besides me.

 

Here is who wins the debates. Whoever tells the biggest lies and decieves the most people into thinking they know what they are talking about.

I'm glad Clyde found another person to feud with besides me.

 

Here is who wins the debates. Whoever tells the biggest lies and decieves the most people into thinking they know what they are talking about.

 

From one who considers himself to be quite cynical let me say you are VERY cynical, my man.:lol:

Did Romney actually say that the entire $90B went to companies like Solyndra?

Did Romney actually say that the entire $90B went to companies like Solyndra?

 

He did not.

 

You put $90 billion into -- into green jobs. And -- and I -- look, I'm all in favor of green energy. Ninety billion (dollars) -- that -- that would have -- that would have hired 2 million teachers. Ninety billion dollars. And these businesses -- many of them have gone out of business. I think about half of them, of the ones have been invested in, they've gone out of business. A number of them happened to be owned by -- by people who were contributors to your campaigns.

 

The implication was clear. He wasted $90B. His claim that half of them have gone out of business seems to also be incorrect.

From one who considers himself to be quite cynical let me say you are VERY cynical, my man.:lol:

 

I agree, I am also a hypocrite and not always right. But my Pride never gets in the way, I am very humble. Have a great weekend Clyde. I hope to meet you someday.

I am going to challenge you here, my friend. Are you saying the article I linked is leaving out many of the incorrect comments made by the President?

 

Edit: Looks like I did some of the legwork for you. My hourly rate is quite high. I'll be in the Fort soon to drop off the bill.

 

I'm saying that when a politician is spouting "facts" you can bet they're leaving somethign out or referencing one authority when there are others contesting their facts. I'm saying that the various fact checkers had lists of "misstatements" by both men. If you want to think your guy was truthful, have at it.

I If you want to think your guy was truthful, have at it.

 

Why would you say this? I've already posted his misstatements.

Secondly, I've already mentioned that my original comments/questions were based on the feeling that the Gov won but it seems like it was based on winning despite having problems with facts. THAT is interesting to me.

Why would you say this? I've already posted his misstatements.

Secondly, I've already mentioned that my original comments/questions were based on the feeling that the Gov won but it seems like it was based on winning despite having problems with facts. THAT is interesting to me.

 

Sorry, posted before I read all your other posts. I usually reply as I come to a post rather than reading on. Romney won based on style while being factually challenged. IF/When Obama wins based on style, you can bet he will be factually deficient at the same time Romney loses based on being factually deficient. These guys are not going to get up there and give us the facts, the whole facts and nothing but the facts. That is not what campaigning is about and the debates are the centerpiece of their campaigns.

Why would you say this? I've already posted his misstatements.

Secondly, I've already mentioned that my original comments/questions were based on the feeling that the Gov won but it seems like it was based on winning despite having problems with facts. THAT is interesting to me.

I think everyone is confused as to what you are looking for or you are wanting people to acknowledge here, Clyde? Every single person on here knows that Romney and Obama did not deliver full truths during the debates. That has been happening since the inception of debates. It stands to reason that everyone believes Romney won because he came across as more confident, knowledgeable, and able to defend his position on matters better than Obama. That is how every debate is scored. These guys' platforms are already set well before the debates. How you defend or convey those positions is what determines who wins. Romney won convincingly in that respect.

I think everyone is confused as to what you are looking for or you are wanting people to acknowledge here, Clyde? Every single person on here knows that Romney and Obama did not deliver full truths during the debates. That has been happening since the inception of debates. It stands to reason that everyone believes Romney won because he came across as more confident, knowledgeable, and able to defend his position on matters better than Obama. That is how every debate is scored. These guys' platforms are already set well before the debates. How you defend or convey those positions is what determines who wins. Romney won convincingly in that respect.

 

 

Here's where I struggle and the reason I asked my original questions.

 

You say he won because he came across as more knowledgeable. I'm struggling with how you(collective) can come to such a conclusion.

 

This isn't defending an already set platform.

 

As I said I'm putting more criticism on us as the voting population than I am on any candidate. We cry all the time about what you've listed above and yet we then say "congrats, big boy, you WON because your lies were spoken with such conviction."

 

We're morons.

Here's where I struggle and the reason I asked my original questions.

 

You say he won because he came across as more knowledgeable. I'm struggling with how you(collective) can come to such a conclusion.

 

This isn't defending an already set platform.

 

As I said I'm putting more criticism on us as the voting population than I am on any candidate. We cry all the time about what you've listed above and yet we then say "congrats, big boy, you WON because your lies were spoken with such conviction."

 

We're morons.

 

No argument here. We'll continue to get what we accept.

Here's where I struggle and the reason I asked my original questions.

 

You say he won because he came across as more knowledgeable. I'm struggling with how you(collective) can come to such a conclusion.

 

This isn't defending an already set platform.

 

As I said I'm putting more criticism on us as the voting population than I am on any candidate. We cry all the time about what you've listed above and yet we then say "congrats, big boy, you WON because your lies were spoken with such conviction."

 

We're morons.

 

Clyde, it is like I told you at the start of this thread. It is about likeability and connecting with the voters. You just need a thread of truth in your content if you can deliver it with conviction and use it to make a point. Romney won the debate because he "performed" better than Obama and that is the way debates go.