August 30, 201214 yr In truth, I'd be a little more sympathetic to this if UK's official athletic site didn't claim a football championship in 1950 that they didn't win. They did retroactively win the Sagarin version. Football is a whole different (and stupid) animal. So many teams could claim a championship because there are so many organizations that hand them out. And in 1950 the AP and UPI handed out theirs before the bowls, which is why Oklahoma won it at all. Tennessee probably would have won it had they taken into account postseason games.
August 30, 201214 yr In truth, I'd be a little more sympathetic to this if UK's official athletic site didn't claim a football championship in 1950 that they didn't win. UK has football?
August 30, 201214 yr The NIT was a big deal for many decades. But as the NCAA tourney took in more teams, the number of quality squads going to the NIT faded. This is what makes the difference IMO. Winning the NIT in the 50's, 60's or 70's was still a big feat. But it lost it's luster with each decade and the expansion of the NCAA to 24 teams, 32 and 48 by '79 put an end to how good that tourney could be. By the 50's I don't think anyone confused the NIT champ with the National Title winners of the day.
August 30, 201214 yr In truth, I'd be a little more sympathetic to this if UK's official athletic site didn't claim a football championship in 1950 that they didn't win. I think people start "fishing" for things to be proud of when you don't have a long history in your program to point out to others.
August 30, 201214 yr It's really no different than UNC of all people. When Duke had won three National Titles (at the time the same as UNC had), the Tar Heel sports department began marketing their 1924 Helms Foundation championship as part of their total of National Titles. I called more than a few UNC fans on that one and told them if we are going to count Helms then UK has 9, not 7 National Titles. (at the time that was the count) Counting Helms' titles is a lot more justified IMO (but you can believe I don't let UNC fans I know get away with it). There wasn't an NCAA title at that point. Again, UK has 12 using this method, and is tied with UCLA (who has 11 NCAA and 1 NIT).
August 30, 201214 yr It's really no different than UNC of all people. When Duke had won three National Titles (at the time the same as UNC had), the Tar Heel sports department began marketing their 1924 Helms Foundation championship as part of their total of National Titles. I called more than a few UNC fans on that one and told them if we are going to count Helms then UK has 9, not 7 National Titles. (at the time that was the count) I've seen a lot of complaints about UNC claiming the Helms title. I didn't even know what they were at the time.
August 30, 201214 yr I guess I'm in the minority of people on here....I mean, who gives a rat's behind? Seriously?
August 30, 201214 yr Author I could care less that they are doing it, I just find it odd and dumb that they would.
August 30, 201214 yr As a UofL fan I only care about two titles (1980 & 1986). All the others happened before my time. Its okay to hang banners from what you accomplished then but in todays world the NCAA title is the only one recognized.
August 30, 201214 yr We'll see on Sunday who wants to be who. In football, I really don't think I want to be either one.
August 30, 201214 yr In football, I really don't think I want to be either one. Definitely wouldn't want to be UK though.
August 30, 201214 yr In football, I really don't think I want to be either one. True but I have to agree with SC. Better to be football Cards than football Cats. The joker's on us.
August 30, 201214 yr Just for the record: UK and UL DID play in '48. They played in the Olympic Trials. Kentucky won 91-57. Box Score: Kentucky vs. Louisville (March 27, 1948)
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