From a legal standpoint the fact that Zimmerman didn't stay in his car is irrelevant.

 

Incorrect. This is from a capias filed by the lead investigator to the state attorney's office: "the encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and waited the arrival of law enforcement or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialog (sic) in an effort to dispel each party's concern". "There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter."

 

While this was initially filed to seek a negligent manslaughter charge and was denied Zimmerman getting out of the car and causing the encounter is the basis of the prosecution's case.

Incorrect. This is from a capias filed by the lead investigator to the state attorney's office: "the encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and waited the arrival of law enforcement or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialog (sic) in an effort to dispel each party's concern". "There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter."

 

While this was initially filed to seek a negligent manslaughter charge and was denied Zimmerman getting out of the car and causing the encounter is the basis of the prosecution's case.

 

Did Zimmerman break any Florida laws by getting out of his car?

Did Zimmerman break any Florida laws by getting out of his car?

 

While the act of getting out of his car is not illegal the prosecution feels that the act of getting out of his car and pursuing Martin was negligent and led to the incident.

 

And again, I'm not advocating a murder charge. I do however, feel as though Zimmerman was negligent and bears some responsibility in Martin's death. Martin had every bit as much right to defend himself from Zimmerman as Zimmerman did from him. Do you not agree?

 

While the act of getting out of his car is not illegal the prosecution feels that the act of getting out of his car and pursuing Martin was negligent and led to the incident.

 

And again, I'm not advocating a murder charge. I do however, feel as though Zimmerman was negligent and bears some responsibility in Martin's death. Martin had every bit as much right to defend himself from Zimmerman as Zimmerman did from him. Do you not agree?

 

I think whether or not Zimmerman is guilty of anything depends on what happened after he got out of the car. The fact that he got out of the car means nothing to me.

 

If Zimmerman attacked Martin I think Martin had every right to defend himself.

I think whether or not Zimmerman is guilty of anything depends on what happened after he got out of the car. The fact that he got out of the car means nothing to me.

 

If Zimmerman attacked Martin I think Martin had every right to defend himself.

 

Would he have to attack him? Let me put it to you this way. If you were walking in a relative's neighborhood doing nothing wrong and someone began following you closely while talking on the phone would you wonder what was going on? Then if you tried to get out of there and saw them get out of the car and pursue you what would you do? If you were armed would you draw your weapon? Even if you weren't armed would you become aggressive towards them or wait on them to make a threatening move?

 

Would he have to attack him? Let me put it to you this way. If you were walking in a relative's neighborhood doing nothing wrong and someone began following you closely while talking on the phone would you wonder what was going on? Then if you tried to get out of there and saw them get out of the car and pursue you what would you do? If you were armed would you draw your weapon? Even if you weren't armed would you become aggressive towards them or wait on them to make a threatening move?

 

The problem is we don't know that Zimmerman pursued him. He says he stopped when the dispatcher told him to.

 

And there are too many ways to answer your question but to be honest, I don't know what I'd do. It would depend on alot of things.

The problem is we don't know that Zimmerman pursued him. He says he stopped when the dispatcher told him to.

 

And there are too many ways to answer your question but to be honest, I don't know what I'd do. It would depend on alot of things.

 

A lot of unknowns in this case. Even if he stopped pursuing him when told by the dispatcher it might not have mattered. According to Zimmerman Martin ran and he got out of the car and chased after him--for how long we don't know. We can be fairly certain that if he didn't get out and begin that chase that the ensuing confrontation doesn't occur. After all, once he was in fear for his life Martin had just as much right to stand his ground as Zimmerman did--he just didn't have a gun.

 

A lot of unknowns in this case. Even if he stopped pursuing him when told by the dispatcher it might not have mattered. According to Zimmerman Martin ran and he got out of the car and chased after him--for how long we don't know. We can be fairly certain that if he didn't get out and begin that chase that the ensuing confrontation doesn't occur. After all, once he was in fear for his life Martin had just as much right to stand his ground as Zimmerman did--he just didn't have a gun.

 

I don't remember Zimmerman saying he ran after him. From what I remember he says he stopped when the dispatcher told him to. He said he then walked to look at a street sign when Martin asked him "what's your problem?" He said he looked down to get his cell phone and when he looked up Martin punched him and knocked him down.

I don't remember Zimmerman saying he ran after him. From what I remember he says he stopped when the dispatcher told him to. He said he then walked to look at a street sign when Martin asked him "what's your problem?" He said he looked down to get his cell phone and when he looked up Martin punched him and knocked him down.

 

He got out of the car and attempted to follow him on foot. He went after him for at least awhile. The prosecution does not believe that he stopped following Martin when instructed.

Incorrect. This is from a capias filed by the lead investigator to the state attorney's office: "the encounter between George Zimmerman and Trayvon Martin was ultimately avoidable by Zimmerman, if Zimmerman had remained in his vehicle and waited the arrival of law enforcement or conversely if he had identified himself to Martin as a concerned citizen and initiated dialog (sic) in an effort to dispel each party's concern". "There is no indication that Trayvon Martin was involved in any criminal activity at the time of the encounter."

 

While this was initially filed to seek a negligent manslaughter charge and was denied Zimmerman getting out of the car and causing the encounter is the basis of the prosecution's case.

 

I didn't see anything in there that says getting out of your car after the dispatcher said to stay in the car is anyway a basis for anything involving the dispute of SYG.

He got out of the car and attempted to follow him on foot. He went after him for at least awhile. The prosecution does not believe that he stopped following Martin when instructed.

What they believe and what they can prove are two different things. From what I've seen and read they can't prove he didn't stop following Martin. The only version we have is Zimmerman's and so far the evidence supports his version.

What they believe and what they can prove are two different things. From what I've seen and read they can't prove he didn't stop following Martin. The only version we have is Zimmerman's and so far the evidence supports his version.

 

Exactly what I've been trying to say.

I know since there is no trial its interesting to have one outside the courtroom. But the issue with this 'new photo' is that the grainy, black and white version that was far less graphic was WITHHELD by the police and the prosecutor from the defense for months. I would still not hazard a guess as to guilt or innocence but the recklessness of the prosecutor of withholding the color version of this photo, coupled with the NBC slice and dice of the 911 call make this whole process and the reporting of it a circus and does little for anyone's faith in 'the system'.

Trayvon Martin: DOJ Set to Announce No Charges Against George Zimmerman

 

ABC News has learned Martin’s family will soon be notified that the Justice Department will not be filing charges against George Zimmerman, who shot the 17-year-old after a confrontation in 2012. Thursday marks three years to the day since Martin was killed.

 

Federal prosecutors concluded there is not sufficient evidence to prove Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman in Sanford, Fla., intentionally violated Martin’s civil rights, sources told ABC News.

Trayvon Martin: DOJ Set to Announce No Charges Against George Zimmerman

 

ABC News has learned Martin’s family will soon be notified that the Justice Department will not be filing charges against George Zimmerman, who shot the 17-year-old after a confrontation in 2012. Thursday marks three years to the day since Martin was killed.

 

Federal prosecutors concluded there is not sufficient evidence to prove Zimmerman, a neighborhood watchman in Sanford, Fla., intentionally violated Martin’s civil rights, sources told ABC News.

Well at least we won't have to hear about the DOJ having an agenda.