He was the best choice from a really bad crop of candidates.

 

Care to explain why you feel that way publicly? If not you can PM me, I just never got the buzz for Massie.

He was the best choice from a really bad crop of candidates.

 

Or he also spent probably 4x on his election from what I understand. The SuperPac alone that he was given was double what Moore or Alecia had to spend from what I understand. Seems weird to me that Texas can buy an election in KY.

 

Looks like the out-of-state interests are going to steal another election. It would be different if these Texas imposters (who set up their office in a Bellevue storefront) had the interests of NKY in mind. All they want is another congressional feather to put in their cap. :irked:

 

My thoughts exactly. BF's post from another thread.

He was the best choice from a really bad crop of candidates.

 

I am going to disagree with you on that RE. In fact, I can't recall any race for office that had as many good choices as there were in that race. It was a very good slate of candidates.

Massie and Adkins. OMG.

Massie, really, oh you Republicans, what are you doing......

 

The election of Rand Paul back in 2010 reflected the mood and belief of enough Kentuckians back in 2010 to get him elected and the nomination of Massie reflected the mood and beliefs of those Rs voting yesterday from the 4th Congressional district. We can debate and disagree over whether those voting to elect Paul and to nominate Massie are stupid or wise; fanatics or realists; or emotional or logical until the cows come home. But the fact remains that they voted the way they feel.

 

I believe that if Massie wins the general (which I think is very likely to happen) we will be sending another Kentuckian to Congress that I think will make the partisanship worse, not better. I could just blame the Rs that voted for Massie, but when I think about it more deeply, I have to blame whatever caused those voters to vote the way they did; that caused them to feel the way they feel. And with respect to those blaming the Super Pacs and the Texas influence, I don't believe that is what caused Massie to win yesterday.

I'll say this, where I voted there was on person holding a sign (legal distance away, the CC Sheriff checked) and that was for Massie.

And with respect to those blaming the Super Pacs and the Texas influence, I don't believe that is what caused Massie to win yesterday.

 

I don't think it caused Massie to win but it certainly played a huge factor. I don't know exact numbers, and it is hearsay at its finest, but the Massie campaign spent double what Moore and Alecia spent, combined. Name recognition is pretty much everything in races like this for the average person IMO. Massie ran four different commercials on Monday night, while Alecia only ran one. I don't think there is any denying, having that type of money, due primarily to the Super Pac from TX, played a large factor in this primary.

I can say without question money and name recognition had very little to do with Massie getting the majority of the vote. How about that people are sick of career politicians and the fact that Massie won't accept a congressional pension and supports term limits. He also realizes that spending in Washington is totally out of control. Refreshing these days.

I can say without question money and name recognition had very little to do with Massie getting the majority of the vote. How about that people are sick of career politicians and the fact that Massie won't accept a congressional pension and supports term limits. He also realizes that spending in Washington is totally out of control. Refreshing these days.

 

Yet he was/is Judge Executive right, a Political position

I can say without question money and name recognition had very little to do with Massie getting the majority of the vote. How about that people are sick of career politicians and the fact that Massie won't accept a congressional pension and supports term limits. He also realizes that spending in Washington is totally out of control. Refreshing these days.

 

I don't really see how you could possibly justify the bolded claim at all. From my understanding they spent far more money than the second place candidate. I don't want to throw numbers out because I don't have the proof to back it, just what I've heard.

I don't think it caused Massie to win but it certainly played a huge factor. I don't know exact numbers, and it is hearsay at its finest, but the Massie campaign spent double what Moore and Alecia spent, combined. Name recognition is pretty much everything in races like this for the average person IMO. Massie ran four different commercials on Monday night, while Alecia only ran one. I don't think there is any denying, having that type of money, due primarily to the Super Pac from TX, played a large factor in this primary.

 

Perhaps, but name recognition didn't enable Moore to win his own county. Surely the voters in Boone County recognized Moore's name more strongly than Massie's even with all the Super Pac ads. The Super Pac ads may have helped win the name recognition battle with W-E, but it doesn't explain Moore's bad loss.

 

I generally agree with RomanEmpire. Massie's win is attributable more to the issues and political climate than anything else. The career politician angle however? Might explain Moore's loss; doesn't explain W-E's bad loss (she is not a career politician).

 

I don't attribute Massie's win with the voters dis-satisfaction with Congress. He didn't beat an incumbent. Term limits? Yeah maybe some. But I don't think that was a major issue. Had a moderate supporting term limits been running for the first time against an extreme conservative opposed to term limits, I feel the extreme conservative opposed to term limits would have won. Remember, McConnell is opposed to term limits and he keeps getting sent back to the Senate.

 

I attribute Massie's win primarily to the extreme disappointment and frustration with the WH. While the TP was alive prior to President Obama taking office, it was a fledging movement. It got real legs and growth after the stimulus law and the healthcare reform law. Those two laws were extremely unpopular with Ky. Rs. The TP tapped into those emotions and sent Rand Paul to the Senate in 2010. Those emotions are still present and the TP again tapped into those emotions and propelled Massie to last night's win. The TP and the candidates it got elected each need to send President Obama a Christmas basket each year. I've said it before and I'll say it again, President Obama has become a very polarizing presence in the WH.

 

Just think how energized the far left would become if Santorum was to become our next President and was able to force some of his far right agenda through Congress? The far left movement would become huge and would remain energized and effective until Santorum left office. That in my opinion is what we are dealing with today as the TP continues to be able to get its candidates elected to Congress. The TP wants to get obstructionists elected to Congress because it feels that it is the only way to stop President Obama. Ky voters agreed with that when they elected Rand Paul in 2010; the Rs that voted in yesterday's primary agreed with that when the voted for Massie.

Perhaps, but name recognition didn't enable Moore to win his own county. Surely the voters in Boone County recognized Moore's name more strongly than Massie's even with all the Super Pac ads. The Super Pac ads may have helped win the name recognition battle with W-E, but it doesn't explain Moore's bad loss.

 

That was my first comment from last night. Couldn't beleive how badly Moore got beat in Boone County.

I believe that if Massie wins the general (which I think is very likely to happen) we will be sending another Kentuckian to Congress that I think will make the partisanship worse, not better.

This is very true. And yes, it was the invasion by the Super Pac forces from around the country that got Massie elected. Their out of state cash infusion amounted to more thanthe funds of all the other candidates combined -- both parties. The Tea Party wanted another victory for their movement and that's what they bought...uh, I mean "got."

 

The more I hear about Massie, the less I like him. I haven't heard him say word one about what he wants to do for Northern KY. In the Enquirer's coverage of his post-election speech and party, he didn't even mention the district or its concerns. The only thing you hear from him (or any of his Tea Party radicals) is his stand on this national issue or that national policy. Does he even know where he is from? Ah, yes...Massachusetts.

Honestly, I vowed not to vote for Massie WAY back in January when his signs first started appearing. Too early for me to be seeing signs for a May race. That's just my opinion though. I am also very anti Lloyd Rogers so when he endorses someone, it's the kiss of death as far as I'm concerned.

This is very true. And yes, it was the invasion by the Super Pac forces from around the country that got Massie elected. Their out of state cash infusion amounted to more thanthe funds of all the other candidates combined -- both parties. The Tea Party wanted another victory for their movement and that's what they bought...uh, I mean "got."

 

The more I hear about Massie, the less I like him. I haven't heard him say word one about what he wants to do for Northern KY. In the Enquirer's coverage of his post-election speech and party, he didn't even mention the district or its concerns. The only thing you hear from him (or any of his Tea Party radicals) is his stand on this national issue or that national policy. Does he even know where he is from? Ah, yes...Massachusetts.

 

Davis was a transplant as well, right? Didn't seem to hear much about that when he was representing the 4th.