Some similarities in the cases, but mainly, why is this Zimmerman guy not arrected. WHy did the feds have to get invvovled. This should've been done at the local level.

I know vaguely about the Till incident, but it seems a lot has to do with a Florida technicality in their newer self-defense law which has been abused in the past.

I know vaguely about the Till incident, but it seems a lot has to do with a Florida technicality in their newer self-defense law which has been abused in the past.

 

Exactly.

 

"Stand Your Ground" Law in Florida may keep the killer from jail.

 

Trayvon Martin: "Stand your ground" law goes too far - Orlando Sentinel

For anyone not familiar with the Emmit Till story, here it is:

 

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Till was from Chicago, Illinois visiting his relatives in the Mississippi Delta region when he spoke to 21-year-old Carolyn Bryant, the married proprietor of a small grocery store. Several nights later, Bryant's husband Roy and his half-brother J. W. Milam arrived at Till's great-uncle's house where they took Till, transported him to a barn, beat him and gouged out one of his eyes, before shooting him through the head and disposing of his body in the Tallahatchie River, weighting it with a 70-pound (32 kg) cotton gin fan tied around his neck with barbed wire. His body was discovered and retrieved from the river three days later.

Exactly.

 

"Stand Your Ground" Law in Florida may keep the killer from jail.

 

Trayvon Martin: "Stand your ground" law goes too far - Orlando Sentinel

 

If this case is an accurate reflection of what "stand your ground" legally allows (and I hope that people will come to their senses and charge Zimmerman), then I'm not sure under what circumstance you couldn't commit legal homicide.

If this case is an accurate reflection of what "stand your ground" legally allows (and I hope that people will come to their senses and charge Zimmerman), then I'm not sure under what circumstance you couldn't commit legal homicide.

 

I agree. The simple truths of this case seem to point to homicide and not a test of "Stand your ground" Law.

I just don't see how the stand your ground law could apply here. The shooter was told not to follow the kid. Not only that but the kid's friend has stated that he was on the phone with her and was scared of the shooter and actually ran away and tried to lose him. If the kid was trying to get away I don't know how it could be called self defense even if the kid did attack him when the shooter caught up with him and confronted him. I hope the feds can make a case.

For anyone not familiar with the Emmit Till story, here it is:

 

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Till was from Chicago, Illinois visiting his relatives in the Mississippi Delta region when he spoke to 21-year-old Carolyn Bryant, the married proprietor of a small grocery store. Several nights later, Bryant's husband Roy and his half-brother J. W. Milam arrived at Till's great-uncle's house where they took Till, transported him to a barn, beat him and gouged out one of his eyes, before shooting him through the head and disposing of his body in the Tallahatchie River, weighting it with a 70-pound (32 kg) cotton gin fan tied around his neck with barbed wire. His body was discovered and retrieved from the river three days later.

 

So awful. That poor child.

So awful. That poor child.

 

I read a book a few years ago on the case. I think it was called something like "The Death of Emmitt Till."

I am really surprised so many people aren't aware of the Emmitt Till story!

Why has this gained so much attention, this stuff happens every single day in America.

 

The killer was Hispanic, just think how much news it would have made if the killer was white.

 

Trayvon seemed like he was a very good kid, a tragedy.

 

If the guy did kill him based on color, then he deserves a fate similar.

The Sanford Police Chief has "temporarily" stepped down so as not to be a distraction.

 

Police Chief temporarily resigns

For anyone not familiar with the Emmit Till story, here it is:

 

Emmett Till - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

Till was from Chicago, Illinois visiting his relatives in the Mississippi Delta region when he spoke to 21-year-old Carolyn Bryant, the married proprietor of a small grocery store. Several nights later, Bryant's husband Roy and his half-brother J. W. Milam arrived at Till's great-uncle's house where they took Till, transported him to a barn, beat him and gouged out one of his eyes, before shooting him through the head and disposing of his body in the Tallahatchie River, weighting it with a 70-pound (32 kg) cotton gin fan tied around his neck with barbed wire. His body was discovered and retrieved from the river three days later.

 

His mother had his casket open at his funeral. So that everyone could see what happened to him.

I don't think this situation is the same as the Till situation, though.

 

I do think Zimmerman should be behind bars. I do think it's possible TrayVon's race had something to do with it. But from all I've read, I think Zimmerman was motivated by over-zealousness and maybe a desire to be a hero at some point. Sometimes people take their jobs way to seriously...to the point of harm to others.

 

But I think what he'll be eventually found guilty of is manslaughter.

 

The second part of this, though, seems very like the past not having died. That police department's record is abominable, and there should definitely be some high-level investigation into the department and it's policies and ethics.

I don't think this situation is the same as the Till situation, though.

 

I do think Zimmerman should be behind bars. I do think it's possible TrayVon's race had something to do with it. But from all I've read, I think Zimmerman was motivated by over-zealousness and maybe a desire to be a hero at some point. Sometimes people take their jobs way to seriously...to the point of harm to others.

 

But I think what he'll be eventually found guilty of is manslaughter.

 

I agree that wanting to be "po po" was his primary driver but race was secondary as evidenced by what he uttered before the police told him to not chase the kid.