March 11, 201214 yr I wanted to like this too, but it just didn't fit "liking someone going to Hell" But I get what you are meaning. Matthew 7:21 I have a story I'll share soon, Mama asleep (I need to get a lighted keyboard they have at Staples for $75.00) . Its a sad but I have a question from it. Everyone should read and study Jesus' Sermon on the Mount. It explains it all. I just finished rereading it when I saw this thread. What I meant was that there are people who claim to be a christian under different denominations and no matter how much preaching they hear. No matter how much they attend church they just don't want to turn away from the world of sin. God is a spirit. He must be worshiped in spirit and in truth. So it doesn't matter where you are. If you have made Jesus your Lord and Savior and you worship God in spirit and in truth you will get into heaven. 21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23 And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity. 24 Therefore whosoever heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them, I will liken him unto a wise man, which built his house upon a rock: 25 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell not: for it was founded upon a rock. 26 And every one that heareth these sayings of mine, and doeth them not, shall be likened unto a foolish man, which built his house upon the sand: 27 And the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and it fell: and great was the fall of it. Matt 7:21-27 (KJV)
March 12, 201214 yr Please define what you mean by judgemental? For me, saying if you don't believe a particular way your going to hell is being very judgemental.
March 12, 201214 yr In your opinion, how does one make it to Heaven? By being a good loving, caring, person.
March 12, 201214 yr By being a good loving, caring, person. So you believe there is a Heaven, but you don't believe the Bible?
March 12, 201214 yr By being a good loving, caring, person. So as individuals we can earn our way to be with God and Jesus sacrifice for our sins was pointless?
March 12, 201214 yr So as individuals we can earn our way to be with God and Jesus sacrifice for our sins was pointless? Who said that? The man said you get to Heaven by being a good, loving, caring person.
March 12, 201214 yr Who said that? The man said you get to Heaven by being a good, loving, caring person. By saying that, it looks like he was saying a person can get to heaven by his own works. You can be the greatest loving,caring person in the world but that alone is not going to get you into heaven. No one can get to heaven or to the Father by his own works. 6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. John 14:6 (KJV) This is what my Lord and Savior was saying by this scripture: I am the way-That leads to the Father.The TRUTH that teaches the knowledge of God, and directs in the way. The LIFE that animates all those who seek and serve him, and which is to be enjoyed eternally at the end of the way. No man cometh unto the Father, but by me-By any other doctrine, by any other merit, or by any other intercession than mine.
March 12, 201214 yr Who said that? The man said you get to Heaven by being a good, loving, caring person. :thumb:
March 12, 201214 yr So you believe there is a Heaven, but you don't believe the Bible? Who said that? I swear the jump in logic some of you guys make is mind-boggling....
March 12, 201214 yr Who said that? I swear the jump in logic some of you guys make is mind-boggling.... You got that right. When you said you can get to Heaven by being a good, caring, loving person you are certainly going against what the Bible teaches us.
March 12, 201214 yr You got that right. When you said you can get to Heaven by being a good, caring, loving person you are certainly going against what the Bible teaches us. Not really. If you're a good, caring, loving person, you're being Christ-like in your daily actions. That is what gets us to Heaven, the Bible even tells us to be Christ-like.
March 12, 201214 yr Not really. If you're a good, caring, loving person, you're being Christ-like in your daily actions. That is what gets us to Heaven, the Bible even tells us to be Christ-like. Works won't get you in brother. You can be the nicest cat in the history of mankind. Christ as you personal savior is the only way. He is the door. No man comes unto the Father but by him. Lots of good, caring, loving folks out there lost and headed for Hell without a savior.
March 12, 201214 yr Works won't get you in brother. You can be the nicest cat in the history of mankind. Christ as you personal savior is the only way. He is the door. No man comes unto the Father but by him. Lots of good, caring, loving folks out there lost and headed for Hell without a savior. And from my vantage point people that feel that way are extremely judgemental. There is no person on this Earth that knows what gets a person into Heaven. To try and say that if you don't believe this way or that, that you're going to Hell is passing judgement on others. Only God can judge, not you or I.
March 12, 201214 yr And from my vantage point people that feel that way are extremely judgemental. There is no person on this Earth that knows what gets a person into Heaven. To try and say that if you don't believe this way or that, that you're going to Hell is passing judgement on others. Only God can judge, not you or I. No judging at all. Spindoc is simply telling you what the Bible says.
March 12, 201214 yr No judging at all. Spindoc is simply telling you what the Bible says. And I'm simply saying I think those that believe that it's "this way or Hell" are judgemental people. Look, I believe Jesus is the son of God, and died for our sins. However, I will not try to tell other people that if you don't believe as I do, you're going to hell. I don't know, you don't know, Spindoc doesn't know, AL doesn't know, no one does. For me to say that to someone else, is passing judgement. God is the only one that can do that, no one else.
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