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Oh course his own coach will make that comment ...to justify his stats against that weak schedule the coach made , and also to try and help him get a scholarship. But that schedule won't allow anyone to know how he might do if he had good teams to play against. I guess the playoffs will eventually help

Does he have any scholarship offers yet?

I didn't say that Southern had a 7-0 lead(where did you get that at?, I said they were ahead in the game. Knox scored a touchdown in the 4th quarter, but Southern was ahead 7-6, then Southern got the ball back but a receiver fumbled it on kick return on Knox 21 yd line, that was the break in the game for them, because Knox scored again. southern actually handled Knox well but lost it somehow themselves in the end, but not that Knox looked very good either. And....Southern has been plagued with injuries the whole season.

what happened to the Shelby county qb? Had to leave the game with an injury?

Madison Southern was ahead in this game until the 4th quarter, when a MS player fumbled the ball on a kick return on the knox 21 yard line and Knox ended up scoring off that turnover,which really resulted in the win for Knox.

Any scholarship offers??

Southern didn't seem to show up the first half but came back to score 28 points the second half. QB Zach McGuire was on fire second half and scored 4tds (3 passing Tds, 1 rushing Td and a 2pt conv.) He's another player that's had an injury since the opening of the season but showing that he's recovering great now. Southern plays Knox Central next week.

Good win for Southern.

But regardless if MC had that many penalties, the total of penalties would be320 yards of penalties in the game, so the point is the refs would not let this game be determined by the teams. There was NO complaints about the players and coaches on MC team, my complaint was with those REFs who would not let this game be determined by the teams. But like I said, on to next Friday, and actually it's Southern to Williamsburg.

There is no way McCreary hads 145 yards on penalties. And Southern had Tds called back too. And it was when Southern was about to score, then the flags would start and KEEP them from scoring! MC qb was sacked too, so what's the point about that anyway? I didn't say a word either about MC players, I only complained about the effect the refs had on this game. But hopefully this thread will close, because we are on to a new game...Williamsburg at Southern.

About one game....McCreary and minds will never change about that game and the only game that I've ever seen the refs completely take a win away from a team, in 30 years of my watching football.

Like I said, they have let themselves get beat and they didn't complain at the refs that game either. Southern didn't have 175 yards of penalties when Harrison beat them either. Obviously they werent' playing well. that's my point. They are better than McCreary, they were beating their butt, then the refs got involved, called 175 yards of penalties on Southern and let MC beat them by 2 points.

Yes, first time we have ever played there. Southern was dominating in the first quarter, easily scored 2 Tds, then the flags were on Southern about every single drive. The first quarter was rolling on with southern scoring, then when the refs got controlling the game, the first half of the game lasted one an hour and 15 minutes, and it just got worse. Like I said, 195 yards of penalties against southern on McCrearys field. It was very disgusting and many of the fans were just wanting the coach to load the team on the bus and leave McCreary but of course they didn't (and shouldn't)do that, but the refs wouldn't let them play and gave the game to McCreary . Southern beat themselves when they played Rockastle, their other district game, and let themselves get beat the other games this season and were frustrated with themselves, but not this game. They aren't even hanging their heads about this one. Nothing they could do would have got them this win.

I get your point. The hard part for the team was knowing they could have scored 5 more touchdowns at least on McCreary but the refs wouldn't have it. They had this game, which was also a playoff spot.

They did play through the adversity of the refs. They played well the whole game and the players never lost their cool. The coaches and players are happy with the way they played but no one was happy with the refs penalizing them like they did and took them out of the game, I mean completely. If you can't appreciate 175 yards of penalties then you would have just had to be there to see it. They will be stronger this Friday night I'm sure because of it.

OH....

what does that mean? Do you have to like cheating refs to be a fan of mountain football? I don't think so. Southern never blames losses on the refs. They got beat 4 other game this year and it wasn't the refs. But it was obvious on this game. Don't forget Southern had 175 yards of penalties and only got beat by MCCreary by 2 points. Where in the world did McCreary get their personal refs?

My understanding is they would only have to beat Knox. If McCreary only beats Southern , and Southern beat Knox who beat MccReary and Rockastle, wouldn't Southern be in the playoffs? Why would Southern have to beat Knox and Bell, and McCreary would only need to beat Southern to be in the playoffs??????Who knows...I can't keep up with the rules. All I know is Southern got ripped by the refs who called 175 yards of penalties against them, to give McCreary a win by 2 points.

Don't give it up for southern yet. They do have other games that are not played on McCrearys home field. Wasn't impressed with Rocks play at all when watched them beat Southern this year. Southern lost to McCreary by 2 points AFTER the refs got in the game when the score was Southern 14 to 0. Refs called 175 yards of penalties against Southern! They still only lost by 2, so don't judge much against this one game. Southern is getting players back next week who have been out for various reasons and were finally playing as a team last night. Don't think they won't give their all to KNox Central!

I wouldn't make any assumptions off of McCreary beating Southern. It was played at McCreary with the refs playing against Southern. It wasn't McCreary that beat them. Refs called 175 yards of penalties against Southern. It was unbelievable! Southern played great!With 175 yards of penalties, they lost by 2 points! They dominated the game 1st qtr until the refs got in the games!

And, about your comment...not knowing what the Southern coaches could be upset about...how about 175 yards of penalties called against Southern!! Yep, that would do it!

The Richmond Register just reported that Madison Southern had 175 yards of penalties. The refs were unreal with the flags. On almost every possession, penalties were called against Southern.

If you had seen this game tonight (maybe you could watch it on video, you may be from Richmond...not that you would want to) But if you did, you would see that McCreary did not beat Southern, the refs did. The other games this season, Southern was not near playing their potential, but no one ever said a word about refs changing any of the games, but tonight was a different story, unlike any games I've watched in many years. And yes, Southern is playing better, offense was moving the ball ALL night. They have their best lineman and runningback back next week, along with some others who have been out. The season isn't over yet.

The coaches were not pointing fingers or fighting with any fans! I can not believe you said a coach had a finger in a fans face! Everytime and NUMEROUS times over and over that southern got to the 10yd line, the refs started calling penalties to back Southern up. over and over again. It started the first quarter! At least 4-5 drives to the 10 -15 yard goal line was stopped by the refs , it happened over and over... +Southern was passing the ball and running the ball wonderful all night but it wouldn't have mattered what they did, they were not going to win the game at McCreary. If Southern had LOST this game the coaches would have been dissapointed with the players but they weren't. They told the kids, they played great tonight. they did what they asked them to do. No complaints.

Are you kidding???What game did you watch?? The referees actually took the game away from southern because they were OBVIOUSLY the better team. The refs called yards and yards and yards of penalties and gave the game to McCreary. Southern immediately and easily scored 14 points before the first quarter was up and then the refs got involved....flags, 10-20 yard penalties all night! We sat with some retired coaches who were neutral and they said in all their years of coaching, they had NEVER seen a game absolutely determined by the referees. The referees even waved and smiled at the Southern fans after they called penalty (and yes that is on video!). The McCreary players were nice. Their was no controversy with the players. It was all with the refs. Some of you will say...oh you can't blame it on the refs. Well, watch the video.....and by the way Madison Southern players were NEVER rattled!! In fact, the players were saying they couldn't even feel bad about the loss, they weren't beat by a better team and they didn't give the game away. It was an absolute joke by the referees. But McCreary can't take the refs everywhere they go......