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One Name: Dan Flaig

I’m sure that it definitely came into play when they were making the schedule. The upside to beating a really good out of state opponent is minimal, but if you lose to them, then you get zero secondary points, even if that team has a really good season. It’s just not worth the risk to play those type of teams.

As far as in state teams, they need to put more weight on if you play up in class and lose to a really good team, then you should get rewarded for that. As it currently stands, if you play a good much higher class team, and lose, you are not rewarded for throwing your hat in the ring with the big boys. A perfect example of this, was this past year. Beechwood’s only 2 losses were to 5A Cov Cath by 2, and 6A Dixie by 8. Beechwood also had wins over 4A Corbin, and 6A Ryle, but yet, they were on the road for the semi finals to play West Carter, whose best win was against 3A Russell, but they had a bunch of wins against mediocre to not good 4A and 5A schools. I think what you see happen in 1A, with KCD stacking up wins against mediocre to bad 4A and 5A schools and they pad their RPI. Pikeville plays much better competition and they end up worse in the RPI because of it. These are just 2 examples, there are several just like these, across the state. As far as out of state competition, that needs to change as well. Beechwood has several really good teams they could match up with across the river, but the only teams in Ohio that are willing to play Beechwood, are the ones that view Beechwood as a Harbin points cow. Nobody in Ohio that thinks they will lose to Beechwood, will play Beechwood, and with the current RPI situation in Ky, Beechwood would be dumb to play an Ohio team that would more than likely beat them, because beating them is a low reward, and losing to an Ohio team is a high risk situation. Just my thoughts on the situation!

Scheduling for really good, small school programs is going to get increasingly more difficult. The RPI has changed everything! Bigger schools don’t get much of a reward for beating a smaller school, and if it’s a smaller school such as a Mayfield, Beechwood, LCA type of team, that they would in most cases probably lose to, then the mediocre 5A and 6A schools are not really going to line up to take this chance. This leaves teams like Mayfield to either play a bunch of really good 5A-6A schools, or find some mediocre 4A, 5A type teams to play. Unfortunately, the RPI is changing the way teams construct their schedules.

BG, Dixie, and CCH will probably all beat Highlands. I’ll say 7-3.

You need to win to boost that RPI, Corbin lost 3 out of 4 games to Beechwood.

This is a serious question, what has happened to Frankfort? They used to always field a competitive team, and had some very good teams. I’m not taking a shot at them, I’m just curious why have they dipped so far in the last few years? Are they losing players to FC that they used to be able to keep at Frankfort? They went from battling Beechwood and even beating them one year, to getting beat by Eminence. Seems like a really fast free fall.

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Well when almost all the MAC schools asked him to come to their camps this past summer to show them that he had improved his arm strength, and then those camps did not happen, then I would say that he was a victim of circumstance. His arm was much improved from his junior year, and he did not get to showcase that.

There were 400 less scholarships given out this year by FBS schools than normal in 2021 recruiting class. https://247sports.com/Article/College-football-recruiting-teams-signed-400-fewer-recruits-than-normal-in-2021-160649532/?fbclid=IwAR1lg5b45jyZvdPNHr5LQO99RQE4jNuqWYIA0rZQiJGupv4gXc1Yu57Lr6g

If Covid doesn’t happen, Hergott would have had multiple D1 scholarships. All of the summer camps at Universities were canceled, this year didn’t count against player eligibility, and the transfer portal turned into the Wild West this year because players can transfer out and not have to sit. All of these factors came into play this year. Hergott playing at Beechwood has nothing to do with him not getting a D1 offer. Beechwood plays a tougher schedule than many of the bigger schools in the state, and the kid won Mr Football, I don’t think where he went to school was the reason he didn’t get an offer. It was a crazy year for seniors, and had he gotten to show his improved arm strength at those one day camps, he would have had plenty of MAC offers.

Good call. I was wrong. I hope it works out for Highlands. I hope it works out well for EVERYONE!

Is this correct?

Beechwood and Simon haven’t played since 2018.

This looks like a schedule made to pad the RPI, not to challenge yourself to win a state title. The last 2 years KCD has had a really high RPI by loading up on higher class mediocre teams, and while it gets them a high RPI, we’ve seen what has happened the last 2 years when they ran into quality opponents.

Aug 13 vs. Scott County (Scrimmage) Aug 20 at Manual Aug 27 vs. St. Xavier Sep 3 at Butler Sep 10 at Belfry Sep 17 vs. Fern Creek Sep 24 at South Warren Oct 1 at Shelby County (District) Oct 8 vs. Waggener (District) Oct 15 at North Oldham (District) Oct 22 vs. Franklin County (District) Oct 29 - BYE

Beechwood has 14 titles in 18 state finals appearances. Runners-Up In 95, 02, 03, and 15.

I couldn’t tell you the last time Dayton has won that district. It’s been Beechwood or New Cath and Bellevue every year since at least 1976. Ludlow won it in 75, Beechwood in 74, so it would have to be sometime before 74 since Dayton won the district.

Lickert never won the district at Dayton.

Beechwood’s first four games were against 4A Regional Finalist Corbin, 5A State Semifinalist Cov Cath, 6A Ryle, and 6A Regionals Finalist Dixie. So those 4 games which made up 33% of Beechwood’s schedule, Hergott put up 1,204 Total Yards, which made up 34% of his total yards for the season. Beechwood went 2-2 in those games and lost to Cov Cath by 2 and Dixie by 8. They beat Corbin on the road, which was Corbin’s only loss until they lost to Johnson Central in the playoffs. As far as “padding” the stat book against Newport, Hergott rarely played past the 3rd quarter of any game from Week 5 until the semi finals.

Great post and completely agree, but Hergott actually finished higher than Broyles in completion percentage this year.

You are proving my point -- wasn't addressed with honesty then -- so I struggle to see how a great coach is going to want to move forward now. For the last 5 years -- the Fort Thomas Mafia is convinced that there was plenty of talent to win and that the blame should fall on someone elses shoulders. I just don't think that they figured out who the right person to blame is. I absolutely agree that it is time to move forward. But until you address the problems of the past -- the same thing could happen all over again. I hope it doesn't. But its real hard to be hopeful from the outside -- knowing what happened and the complete unwillingness to address it.

My first thought here ... Highlands to Beechwood isn't an apples to apples comparison at this time. If Coach Rash leaves--and there is a 4 to 6 year downturn in the program at Beechwood I would venture to say that there is a high likelihood that you would be correct. We truly don't know--and won't know until Coach Rash leaves. Hopefully that won't happen for a few more years at least! At the same time--the Beechwood faithful seemed to pick up on the impact of Ginger Webb much, much, much quicker than what the Highlands faithful did. (Which is really interesting -- because it directly impacted the players that both programs were taking in -- and then no longer taking in). Beechwood seemed to eventually figure that out -- then went to work fixing it (not as quickly as people would have liked). You still have Highlands people who don't have a clue of what really happened. Then you compound that with the fact that the "Fort Thomas Mafia" is apparently absolutely convinced that they have had enough talent to be just as good as they used to be since all this happened -- makes me think that any new, informed coach coming into Highlands better double check and make sure that there are no more Ginger Webb's waiting in the wing--simply because you have a component of the population who isn't seeing the forest through the trees. Nothing against the homegrown talent--but it is abundantly clear that you need a few kids from outside of your city limits to push you over the limits. (I don't think anyone from Beechwood would disagree with that -- after Ginger left--but there were probably quite a few who may have felt that way before she completely choked out athletics in general -- and not just football at Beechwood). If my Ginger Webb diatribe doesn't make sense -- here it is in a nutshell -- Ginger closed off the pipeline of great players coming from out of district. I think the faithful liked that a little too much -- and it was/is significantly easier to blame that on the previous coach/staff by saying "the talent is there" -- Ha, ha! Malarkey! (I think there is a great base of talent there--but the ones who put things over the top are no longer coming--and when they do--they leave--Pretty QUICKLY!) I think Dale saw the writing on the wall and realized with Aunt Ginger involved -- that things were not going to be manageable for him either. So he left--and left in a pretty interesting way (not questioning the family motives--but I think the timing is something he probably would have worked around differently a few years earlier). If you can prove me wrong--fire at will. Whether it is Beechwood, Highlands or Po Dunk U -- Coaches have more options today than they used to. If you are good--you have a little more power to set your own course. I simply don't think that is possible at Highlands right now. And I don't think it is possible until the "faithful" takes a long look in the mirror and admits that they need to go backward before they go forward. If they make that commitment upfront to a great coach--they have a chance to get someone of top caliber. If they continue to walk around without acknowledging reality --- I think it will be tough sledding.

My apologies! I am a frustrated home owner in a different area of the Tri-State. Actually--it may border on jealousy that I am not able to sell my house for the same price as other houses in Fort Thomas that are not even half of our square footage!

A little more data that speaks to Cameron Hergott's career at Beechwood CameronHergott2020_Complete.pdf