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You are absolutely RIGHT that' drop the names' doesn't work but your argument where one looks at losses to ranked teams as a plus doesn't work either. As my argument from the very start there are different rules based on the name of the school. It is not a mistake to rank a less known team with a superior record {IMO} over a better known team that is not doing as well this year.

Think what you are saying.....Namecips said "beat a quality team"[ which neither of these teams have done ] "and your team will be ranked" And He also said "lose and you wont be ranked" [which both these teams have done]. His qualifications , that are quotes, don't fit for these ranked teams. Name recognition.

Let,s go again.....team with blow-out loss 20-0, and victories over 1-4, 3-2, 0-6, 2-3. and 2-4......now once again a GOOD BLOW-OUT LOSS...combined I guess with beating "a quality team" of 3-2 or maybe 2-3 definitely puts this team in! Come on guys, once again "im not saying Russell County is better but based on the NUMBERS AND RECORDS ,Russsell should have been there. Name recognition is more important to you.

Okay NamecipS. I don'tlike to knock teams so I will leavethe name out......blow-out loss 46-3. loss 32-27......victories over teams that are 2-4, 1-5. 3-2, 0-6. I see no statement wins, a blow-out loss and a 4-2 record.......numbers don't add up but a better name recognition. How else will you justify this one.COMPARE TO 6-0, ALL WINS OVER TEAMS 2-4, 3-3, 1-4, 3-3, 2-3, 2-3. Send this to any of your polling friends with names hidden and see where they would put each team.

Might want to compare age of kids instead of grade they are in......some classes have kids that were started late or had kids that were held back.......age sometimes is a bigger factor at this level

I understand the poll...Boise st is ranked in national polls based on record and numbers but i really don't know how many SEC teams they could beat.....one must base ones vote on name recognition or numbers and records......i prefer numbers and records....but to each his own......as others in this thread i think Russell should be ranked as they are in most other polls. I also didnt deserve the verbal attacks that you lashed out putting words in my mouth....you dont know me so you shouldn't say what i may think or say......save that for when i do say something really really off wall

oNCE AGAIN NEVER SAID RUSSELL WAS A SUPERIOR TEAM TO ANY OF YOUR TOP TEN.....JUST BASED ON THE COMPARITIVE NUMBERS, THEY SHOULD BE IN POLL...IMO....Never once belittled you Dragonfire or made wild statements to try and make you look bad as you did me.

Never once said to look at just wins and losses . Said to look at records and wins and losses.....please don't misquote. If theguru doesnt want logical critism backed with facts then he shouldn't say "agree or disagree". Stick with my earlier statement that the poll would be different to hand these guys the wins and loss record and the scores and records of the other teams played , in a blind study. Its called name bias. I agree its just a poll and we WILL know after friday night. I personally don't know if Russell is better or not than these other teams but based on numbers and record they deserve to be in poll.

Yep your right, other teams in your poll have played teams with combined records of 11-22, 14-19. 16-19 and some have those GOOD QUALITY LOSSES. Some have 2 quality losses and of these losses some are blow-outs. Russell County with opponents 13-20 and no good quality losses dont fit with these fine records.......you are exactly right. Wish you had to make your decision just by looking at the records with the wins and losses without the schools name........might be a different story then......yep that would be a nice bet to take

Yeah, guess theguru must have come to Lake Cumberland and not been treated to his fancy. Must have a terrible dislike for Russell County or its coaches. If Russell beats or has a good showing against Rockcastle, then do us a favor and don't jump on our band wagon at that time......we're not good enuff to impress you now, and dont want your respect at that time.

Couldn't agree more Watusi......let's hope the games are as good or better than the hype. If they fulfill the expectations then it will be an awesome battle!!!!

Heard that the talented freshman running back for MS[Harris] got elbow hurt in the game......can anyone elaborate or confirm this and when did it happen?

yeah! And maybe Knox Central out with 2 losses and Russell County in.

Casey Co. has some great athletes ,but just too few of them. Wish them a victory, but realistically , just hope they can hold out and keep the game within reach .

Failed to mention that Western's 2-2 record also include the wins that are against teams that are 1-4 and 1-4......That makes a Western with 2 blow out losses and two narrow wins over two teams with a combined record of 2-8.......hmmmmm how many blind study teams would be in top 10 with that resume ???????????

Just so people can compare Russell County has 5 wins and no quality losses ......2-3 team 5-A, 1-3 team 5-A, 3-3 team 5A, 3-3 team5-A and 1-3 team 4-A........as one can see no teams from lower divisions and no QUALITY LOSSES

Wow! Glad to know quality loses even if blow-outs are better than less quality wins! Not saying that Russell County is better but they do deserve more respect. Madisonville has wins over teams that are 2-2, 2-2,0-5,and 0-4 combined with a loss.....hmmmm impressive!!! Franklin Simpson has wins over 2-3, 2-3,2-3 and a quality blow out loss of 28 pts....wow! equally impressive. Ashland with wins over teams 2-3,2-3,1-4 an Ohio team and a loss to a unknown WV team. Wow equally impressive! Johnson Central and Knox Central have records that we dont know about because they play out of state teams but each have that good quality loss. Now we come to Western......lets see now they beat a 1-4 team by 3, and beat a 1-4 team by 15, but they do have two quality blow out losses ......outstanding resume!!!!!! The only thing that could make Russell County's resume better would be a quality blow out loss!!!! Come on guys ,if the names were hidden with only the records and scores shown,,, all of you would pick Russell County over either all or most of these teams......hands down!

You continue to ignore Russell County......Where's the love?

All you guys continue to say that Russell County wants out of the 4th. I don't know where you are getting your info, but being close to this source I can tell you that this is a false notion. Travel to Wayne and other Eastern Time Zone locations are hard plus everyone forgets Russell has to go around Lake Cumberland to get to these areas and the roads are not very poor compared to the cumberland parkway. Russell would definitely vote to stay in the 4th if they had a vote in the matter

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