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Chad is a great receiver and the problems with the Bengals don't stem from the offensive skill positions. They need a massive overhaul on the defensive side of the football and they need to upgrade the offensive line. If trading Chad helps you do that, I am for it. Otherwise, Chad is still a top receiver in this league and an important cog in making this offense expolsive again.

There are seriously like 20 players that you could have picked to make this arguement with. Why did you choose Chris Paul? Duncan LeBron Wade Kidd Nash Nowitski KG Amare Howard Boozer Yao Baron Davis Ray Allen Gil Arenas Caron Butler Tony Parker Deron Williams Allen Iverson Rip Hamilton Chauncey Billups Elton Brand... You get my point. And Kobe is BETTER than all of these guys. How many assists does he have to average to be a team player? Is he being selfish when he takes the team on his back the last two seasons and carries them into the playoffs? Was he being selfish when he hit all of those game winners to help his team to victory? What about the big games he has had in the playoffs, he sure was selfish when he defended every teams best wing player and shut them down. You can tell I really think the selfish thing is overplayed, but even if I give you that, are you telling me there is anything Chris Paul does that Kobe can't do? Physically, Kobe is better. Mentally, Kobe has shown his toughness. He lays it on the line everynight just like Paul does, only with better results. Hence, Kobe is better (the BEST wing player EVER!!!)

I personally take Mauk for my college system because I would run the spread in college. I don't think there is an NFL GM in the league that has Mauk ahead of Woodson as a pro prospect. Mauk's size compared to Woodson, plus Mauk's history of injury play a big role in this.

Are you honestly trying to make the arguement that Chris Paul is better than Kobe Bryant? I'm not sure what your point is, but all Kobe has done is win in this league and Paul has yet to make the playoffs, so lets be real. Paul, nice player, even better story. Kobe packs it in tomorrow, he goes to the Hall of Fame. This isn't even close, sorry HHSDad

Okay, but you forgot one important stat...Kobe 3 rings and Paul zero. Kobe, in my opinion, is the best backcourt player ever. I know it sounds crazy to say a guy is better than Michael Jordan, but I think he is. There is nothing that can be done on the court that Kobe can't do.

I think Hughes wins the rubber match. Matt hughes has to be, pound for pound, the strongest man on the planet. Just has unbelieveable raw strength to go with his fighting ability. I can't figure out Liddell! My head says he pounds Silva, but something tells me the "Axe Murderer" won't lose this thing. Looking forward to see Gamburyan back from injury, he will be a treat to watch in the 155 division.

ABC let the NFL know how important their product was to them when they let MNF go to cable (ESPN). This might be, in part, a way to stick it to them. Who knows? :jump:

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There are a lot of good western Kentucky programs. The get less publicity, but teams like Mayfield, Bowling Green, Tilghman are well respected. Good, solid footbal being played out west.

This is a smart move by Roger. This will be great PR for the NFL.

I don't know...I think you can get a quality signal caller in this draft. It just depends on systems and development within the system. I like Brennan, Woodson and Ryan. I'm not sold on Flaco, but he could be big time with time. I'm not even sure that we lok back on this draft and say Brohm was the best QB when it is all said and done. QB is a crapshoot, as a wise BGP poster onse said.

Amen on that! I took no offense, I am a UK fan but I recognoize the flaws in Woodson's game. I was just trying to compare the two. I think Woodson is the better prospect. It is a crap shoot though. Even Peyton wasn't thought to be a sure thing (incidently, thank God some GM didn't take Leaf first; that guy would go down as the worst GM ever!).

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I don't want to freeze out the Trinity, St. X and Highlands fans because I am a huge fan of all of those programs and everyone that follows high school football nationally recognizes these programs as the best in the state, no questions asked. I do want to know, however, what are some of the programs that don't get the attention, but are solid programs throughout the state? I tend to think of the little guys when I think of underrated. Russell probably is the most underrated, in my opinion. All the Red Devils do is win. They are very solid and are probably the best program in the eastern part of the state. Who else is out there? Who you got?

I've seen Flaco and I would say he has talent, but I don't know that his arm or size is better than Woodson's. The level of talent he played against with success is not the same as the SEC. Also, Flaco didn't beat out Tyler Plako when he was at Pitt, which is why he ended up at Delaware. I think that may say something as well. Again, I'm no NFL GM, I just think Woodson is a better prospect.

Flaco transferred to Delaware from Pitt once Wannstedt got there. He is a descent player, mobile, good arm. I don't think he is better than Woodson, but I'm not an NFL GM.

I echo this sentiment across the board for a lot of these high school football teams. Miami Northwestern was a great team (I saw the Miami Northwestern/ Southlake Carroll game in person. Both great teams! Southlake doesn't get out of the region in Texas this year). I think there are a bunch of great teams and I'm not sure these rankings reflect an accuarate picture of who is the best team in the country.

Hey qryche, is it okay if I add to your thread by asking folks to post power clean numbers if they have them?

1. There seems like there should have been a Bluebird on the roster. 2. Kentucky football is on the rise...look at the schools some of these kids are commiting to. There is a lot of talent in the state of Kentucky!

I want to agree with you. I hope we get eight wins next season, but the team is getting a huge makeover. If we get quality quaterbak play to accompany our returning skills talent, seven or eight wins seems like a good prediction.

Many different number one teams, depending on which list you look at. I was just trying to get some opinions from folks. I had the pleasure of attedning both Texas 5A state title games this year and I hae to say Euless Trinity was the best team I have seen this year. Dominant on both lines of scrimmage and great speed in the backfield. I know some folks are closer to the Ohio and Tennesse schools then I am. Even Trinity, X and Highlands may get some consideration. Just curious.

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I don't know if anyone else pointed this out, but I find it ironic that Pete Rose comes out so adimit against steroid use and his son, Pete Rose Jr., appeared in both the Jason Grimsley affidavid and the Mitchell Report.

THANK YOU FOR SAYING THIS!!! I have felt this way since he started on the NFL network. How can his brother be so good and he be so terrible! Dare I say this is a Peyton-Eli situation?

There are several states that seperate the two. The rivals list did not include the seperate private school championships for several states. Again, nflhs.com will produce a more complete list.