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The 2nd team learns what it's like to play against a first team's press in practice. They face it every day. Can't imagine you have never heard that pressing the lower reserves when you have yet to press the whole game & the other coach calls off the dogs in the 4th quarter is bush league. To me, that is no different than a coach who runs up the score on a lesser opponent by pressing the entire game. What benefit does your team gain by pressing only the reserves other than the GIFT of saying that you lost by 15 rather than 30???? Now, if we are talking 1st through 3rd quarters and you are pressing regardless of who is in, that is different. No complaint there. But, the same coach who presses only when the other coach calls off the dogs will scream that the other coach is classless if he never pulls his starters and beats his team the way they could. I've seen it happen first hand. Listened to a coach complain before a game about how classless another coach was by not playing his reserves and scoring 100 points on his team and beating them by 40 points. During our game, we are up 30 early in the 4th and started subbing to show some class and not demoralize the kids and what does that coach do?? Starts pressing our JV & middle schoolers after not pressing the whole game. We won by around 15 and just sat there and shook our heads at the coach while he frantically coached his team in the press. BUSH!!!!

Ding Ding Ding we have a winner!!! Kind of an unwritten rule. Don't wait until my subs come in to throw on the press. If you want to press, press my starters. 2 words, as Intentional Foul stated: BUSH LEAGUE!!!!

Tough loss for Morgan. Rowan was lucky to escape with the win. 16th Region is not a one team race.

Never said you were a bad guy. Can't ever see myself eating muskcrat but I can be persuaded to eat some beavertail if it's fixed just right!!

Thanks for the offer but I think I'll be fine. Reading that was kind of like a flu shot. One dose gets you through until next year!! :thumb:

No one in the 16th will beat them and you certainly cannot press them and hope to beat them. That will result in easy baskets. In reality, there isn't a team within 20 points of Elliott in the 16th. On a bad night with the other team having their best night they will beat everyone by more than 10 points. That's just the reality in the 16th this year and maybe next year too.

I for one feel so much better after reading those posts.

Sorry, that was Varsity09 who said that. I just didn't go back and check to make sure. My bad.

You said in a previous post that he cussed the player our. I don't call the use of 1 "cuss" word as cussing them out. To me, cussing them out would have been a profanity laced tirade where multiple cuss words were directed toward the player. Again, I am not saying that Leach was right in what he said. He SHOULD show more self-control. But to act like it's the end of the world because a coach used a word that probably every kid on that team uses multiple times a day seems like a little bit of overreacting to me. Again, not supporting what he did but those aren't 3rd graders he was coaching. I'm sure none of them went home asking what that word means.

Maybe not directly. The administration is afraid to stand up to the parents down there for fear of lawsuits. They would rather "ask" the teacher to apologize and say that the whole incident was the coach's/teacher's fault and welcome the player/student back with open arms to "save face" rather than standing behind them. It takes a lot for a coach to ask a player to leave practice. They'll make them run or stand on the sideline while someone else plays "their" spot before they toss them completely out. If it gets to that point the player just needs to leave, not tell the coach "no".

I wouldn't. For those who quit, they made their choice. They didn't quit on the coach, they quit on their teammates. If they did it once they'll do it again. Cut your losses and move on.

Or, perhaps he was told that he had to do some restitution for his "mishandling of the situation" and he just didn't want to agree to the terms. Greenup administration has a history of siding with kids and parents and not supporting their coaches or teachers. I have first hand experience of an incident where a student said someone said something to them that was offensive to them. This was never said and I know because I was with this person the entire time when it was supposedly said. They were given the ultimatim of giving a public apology for what they supposedly said or "suffer the consequences". Fearing that they might lose their job they apologized and compromised their pride and principles. Looking back the person in question wishes they would have made a stand for the truth rather than giving in. Maybe Leach wasn't willing to apologize if he felt he was not in the wrong?

Let's not try to make the players sound like victims just because they don't like the coach or his style of play. How about, hey parents just let the coaches do their job. That's all they want.

Not that I think that it was handled properly but if a coach tells a player to leave practice and the player tells them, "no" and they respond to "get the blank out", I hardly consider that cussing the player out. Again, I'm not condoning what was done but surely we are not up in arms because of that?? I personally know of students saying worse than that to teachers at Greenup who got nothing more than a "write up" if that.

I'm sure the kids on the bench heard how many points he had and probably wanted to get him back in to get 40 points. That's the way kids are and it's to be expected. Shame on the coach for putting him back in just to (by all appearances) get 40 points in a 30+ point blowout. If they now have an 11 man bench, NO STARTER should have played more than a couple mins into the 4th quarter. Their conditioning will be fine and they didn't need to play that much anyway with another game tomorrow. I don't think anyone would complain about the 30+ point blowouts if their starters were not in the games late on a regular basis. Most coaches on the losing end of those 30+ point blowouts aren't going to start pressing the reserves once the dogs are called off. Who cares if you win by 15 or 30+?? Personally, I would rather win by 15 and get my reserves some big game experience rather than having to put them in a pressure situation later on when it really counts and them be overwhelmed.

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2 male Elliott parents/fans were extremely rude Monday night against Russell as well. It is my understanding that they were yelling directly at Coach Kidwell by name and even accused Russell of having the 2 officials in their "hip pocket". Very classless in my opinion. Weren't there parents from Elliott that wanted to leave the stands last year at boys games as well? It is my understanding that the comment was made at the Rowan game that people shouldn't mess with certain individuals because, "we are Sandy Hook". Boasting about that type of classless behavior from adults is really something to be proud of. I'm sure the majority of Sandy Hook is embarrassed by those "adults".

Sources state that Chad Leach has resigned as coach at GCHS. They also state that Jason Smith was named interim head coach. Have at it!!

St Joe is a good team. They are currently 10 - 1 with their lone loss being 2 points to Parkersburg, WV Catholic. According to Max Preps they are currently rated #18 in the state of WV regardless of class. This loss is not that shocking especially if Raceland is without Vanderhoof. I'm sure this would have been a much better game had she played. St Joe has a few more area schools on their schedule. It would not be a huge shock if they win all of them.

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Great analysis and I agree 100% with your last paragraph.

Stressful or emotional situations often bring out the best and worst in people. Kids usually model what they see at home.

It may not. I was just making an observation about Greenup as a whole based on past issues. The parents almost always are at the center.

:thumb::thumb: See posts 12 & 14.

I see your point and definitely agree that Tackett is doing an outstanding job and will deserve any honor he gets this year.