March 9, 201214 yr So we should stop airing Martin Luther King Jr.'s speeches and stop documenting history through media altogether? After all, it is all from a period we are long gone from? Correct me if I'm missing your point here. Very much missing it. A historical figure (MLK) is not comparable with a maid. In fact MLK was fighting to get people opportunities so they wouldn't have such menial jobs. That movie has no place in 2012. As I said, such movie just reinforces old racist beliefs through classism.
March 9, 201214 yr Very much missing it. A historical figure (MLK) is not comparable with a maid. In fact MLK was fighting to get people opportunities so they wouldn't have such menial jobs. That movie has no place in 2012. As I said, such movie just reinforces old racist beliefs through classism. The history of common folks is just as important as that of high-profile historical figures. Plus, I would argue that for many folks a look at the experiences of the black servant underclass would be very eye-opening, since a lot of folks aren't aware that the dynamic was basically an extension of slavery in that the only jobs available for many black folks were the same ones their ancestors performed, with only slightly better pay and conditions. It was also a method whites used to make sure blacks "knew their place" in society.
March 9, 201214 yr Good answer, in theory. But how many young people use the Internet, let alone social media for any serious commerce or action? Like 1%? Most are on there to browse and hookup. Here's a prime example, please answer me this: If racism is reducing, then why in the world are they still making movies such as "The Help"? This movie, IMO, just reinforced old stereotypes and class roles. Subtle racism. If racism was being reduced, this movie is not green-lit. That's what I mean by more covert. There is no need for a movie such as "The Help" in 2012.:idunno::idunno::idunno: Honestly, a movie such as "The Help" is absolutely needed in 2012, and as far as I can tell will be needed in 3012
March 9, 201214 yr Good answer, in theory. But how many young people use the Internet, let alone social media for any serious commerce or action? Like 1%? Most are on there to browse and hookup. Here's a prime example, please answer me this: If racism is reducing, then why in the world are they still making movies such as "The Help"? This movie, IMO, just reinforced old stereotypes and class roles. Subtle racism. If racism was being reduced, this movie is not green-lit. That's what I mean by more covert. There is no need for a movie such as "The Help" in 2012.:idunno::idunno::idunno: How can you take a single movie and use it to argue that racism isn't less than it was 50 to 75 years ago? How about you go back and watch 25 movies from the 1940's, then compare it to 25 movies from today. Let me know if you see a difference. Everyone knows that racism is alive and well. We will never stamp it out. Ever. And I'm not talking just in my lifetime or my kids' lifetimes. There will always be ignorant people who feel the need to put down others to make themselves feel superior. All I'm saying is it has decreased in my 50+ years. All we can hope is that it continues to decrease.
March 9, 201214 yr Good answer, in theory. But how many young people use the Internet, let alone social media for any serious commerce or action? Like 1%? Most are on there to browse and hookup. Here's a prime example, please answer me this: If racism is reducing, then why in the world are they still making movies such as "The Help"? This movie, IMO, just reinforced old stereotypes and class roles. Subtle racism. If racism was being reduced, this movie is not green-lit. That's what I mean by more covert. There is no need for a movie such as "The Help" in 2012.:idunno::idunno::idunno: If the story is a good story and worth telling it should be. I would love to see a movie on the Freedom Riders of the early 1960s. It would be a compelling story. But I think it has been avoided since it is such an ugly episode in US history.
March 9, 201214 yr My boys experienced their first bout of it this summer. They are mixed, about 25% black and were told by a friend that he didn't want to play with them b/c they were black. Now I know this kid's parents, there is no way that he learned it there. It's just something that still floats around in communities. That being said, humans have been like this since the beginning of our genus, and there is no way that it will ever be exterminated. There is always going to be some form of differentiation that will create strife b/n the have's and have not's even if it is not based on class. Here it is a race issue, in Mexico it is a class issue.
March 9, 201214 yr If the story is a good story and worth telling it should be. I would love to see a movie on the Freedom Riders of the early 1960s. It would be a compelling story. But I think it has been avoided since it is such an ugly episode in US history. Kind of like the way dozens upon dozens of literary agents rejected the author before the book finally got published.
March 9, 201214 yr Well good new if you are racist... Blood pressure pill may ease racism: Study | Weird | News | London Free Press A common prescription drug used to treat high blood pressure may also curb racist thoughts, a new U.K. study suggests.
March 10, 201214 yr How can you take a single movie and use it to argue that racism isn't less than it was 50 to 75 years ago? How about you go back and watch 25 movies from the 1940's, then compare it to 25 movies from today. Let me know if you see a difference. Everyone knows that racism is alive and well. We will never stamp it out. Ever. And I'm not talking just in my lifetime or my kids' lifetimes. There will always be ignorant people who feel the need to put down others to make themselves feel superior. All I'm saying is it has decreased in my 50+ years. All we can hope is that it continues to decrease. Absolutely has not. It just changed forms. Racism is an energy. Energy cannot be created or destroyed - only change forms. I'll take Hollywood for example. Every movie or tv show today with blacks in it has the blacks in a subservient role to whites. Or, the blaks are so wayward that they need whites to step in and save them from themselves. There are exceptions to every rule so yes, The Cosby Show and others do not apply. I've seen the Blind Side before it was even released. It was called Losing Isaiah. Before that it was a tv show called Webster. Before that it was called Different Strokes. Hardball just to name another off the top of the head. And of course The Help. These types of movies and shows just reinforce and recycle views that promote racism of black people being inferior. And before you say the Blind Side was a true story, remember the racist scenes from it.
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