Sit there, because it's a flight and I already knew I was going to be miserable.

 

I once flew to Salt Lake City and the perfectly average man next to me presumed to read his newspaper opened to full effect, resulting in his hand in my face the whole way. And he refused to move it or read the paper folded in half. What could I do?

 

In that example, I'd fight fire with fire....

 

But, that's kind of what I was getting at, what could you do?

 

How do you determine if someone needs another ticket? Would it be like the rides at an amusement park? What if they bought a ticket weeks in advanced and the airline decides they need another ticket to fly? Do they just take your luggage?

God bless you for being so kind.

 

You are 1 out of 10,000,000.

 

I don't think people like me are as rare as you portray.

The picture you posted seems a bit of an anomaly. The gentlemen can't even be pigeionholed as "fat", because frankly he looks like an enormous man, even height-wise.

 

I'm sorry that you may be uncomfortable, but I don't see that the airline should make a business practice of charging one group for your comfort. As a business practice, it is their job to fill seats. To charge one group more than another, based upon subjectivity, is not a good business practice. On the other hand, it seems to concern you greatly, and it is certainly your perogative to buy the extra seat to ensure your comfort.

 

Why wouldn't they want their flights to be more comfortable? All things being equal people are going to fly airlines that best accommodate them. I prefer flights with free wi-fi, alcohol, punctuality, etc. Granted, I almost never get all of those things I want since the industry isn't particularly competitive. I think you would have a better argument if you said that large passengers are so common it would hurt airlines more to leave them off or price them out of flying than it would to inconvenience the rest.

You also have the right to not fly.

 

I'm against it because it's subjective...highly subjective.

 

1. You are right. I do have the choice.

 

2. It really doesn't have to be subjective. You either do not hang over the arm rest or you do. Is that subjective?

In that example, I'd fight fire with fire....

 

But, that's kind of what I was getting at, what could you do?

 

How do you determine if someone needs another ticket? What if they bought a ticket weeks in advanced and the airline decides they need another ticket to fly? Do they just take your luggage?

 

And conversely, if you were a person who bought two tickets and the flight wound up being fairly empty, would you get a refund of the extra ticket since it's likely no one would have "had" to sit next to them anyway?

I don't think people like me are as rare as you portray.

Come on now. You buy a $478 ticket to Salt Lake City but when you get to your seat 95% of it is taken up by someone, you just chalk it up as a loss and exit the plane?

Certainly every bit as obnoxious as a large person sitting next to you, IMO.

 

So you defend overweight people but hate babies? It's all becoming clear now.

I'm sure they wouldn't complain about the extra meal.

I'm sure they wouldn't complain about the extra meal.

:lol:

I don't think people like me are as rare as you portray.

 

It depends.

 

If it's because you are very nice and do not want to hurt people's feelings by complaining then I am right.

 

If it's because you don't want to cause a scene and , in general, you do not complain even if you receive bad service then you are right. I expect to recieve what I paid for. If I do not get it I calmly (key) let it be known that there is a problem. I then give the business the chance to correct it. If they do not I then get to decide if I will continue doing business. As I stated earlier I believe the airlines do not have the guts to stand up for the passengers who are effected because they know our choices are limited so they say "screw you" to people who are crammed into the window or they bank on people being nice enough nice enough or timid enough to not raise a stink.

Why wouldn't they want their flights to be more comfortable? All things being equal people are going to fly airlines that best accommodate them. I prefer flights with free wi-fi, alcohol, punctuality, etc. Granted, I almost never get all of those things I want since the industry isn't particularly competitive. I think you would have a better argument if you said that large passengers are so common it would hurt airlines more to leave them off or price them out of flying than it would to inconvenience the rest.

 

I may have a better argument, but I think that is actually is not even an argument, because it includes more than fat people. Tall people who take up the aisle space or other passengers leg room for their own legs, for instance.

 

Frankly, I don't think airplanes are comfortable at all, and I'm not obese..plump, but not obese. The seats are not big enough to sit comfortably, there's not enough leg room even for a person 5-3, like me. My knees ache, my back aches, and the whole flying experience is something I avoid unless there is absolutely no reasonable alternative...i.e. I have to go on a work trip.

So you defend overweight people but hate babies? It's all becoming clear now.

 

Heavens no! I don't hate babies! I just feel that if you're going to complain about obnoxiousness on a plane, there are many examples, even after you kick all the fat people off.

And conversely, if you were a person who bought two tickets and the flight wound up being fairly empty, would you get a refund of the extra ticket since it's likely no one would have "had" to sit next to them anyway?

 

If I were king of the airlines I would indeed refund the 2nd ticket IF there were two seats next to each other. That's easy.

Heavens no! I don't hate babies! I just feel that if you're going to complain about obnoxiousness on a plane, there are many examples, even after you kick all the fat people off.

 

The difference is that I don't buy the right to a quiet flight. I do buy a space to sit in.

Come on now. You buy a $478 ticket to Salt Lake City but when you get to your seat 95% of it is taken up by someone, you just chalk it up as a loss and exit the plane?

 

What do you mean? I would sit in my seat and probably make conversation with the other person. If I've bought a ticket and I have to be somewhere, I'll just make do. What's the alternative? I'm not going to ask that another passenger who bought his/her be kicked off.