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Officiating question....What constitutes intentional grounding?

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Watched a varsity game friday night and the QB rolled out to the right side outside the tackle box, threw the ball past the first down marker. But out of bounds. Result was intentional grounding and loss of down. Was this correct? I thought the rule was as long as the QB was outside the tackle box and threw it past the line of scrimmage then it was a legal play......Help.

I'm certainly not a football official but I don't think the past the tackles/out of pocket applies to high school.

I'm certainly not a football official but I don't think the past the tackles/out of pocket applies to high school.

 

I believe you are correct Clyde...

I believe in high school there has to be a receiver in the area. I don't know that for sure, but I've seen a few QBs in recent years that went by the college/NFL interpretation and get hit with flags. Sometimes they were throwing from just about the sideline so they were well outside the box.

My understanding is:

 

- No inside/outside the tackles rule in high school.

- Because of the above, a QB can not purposely just throw the ball away without throwing to a receiver to avoid a sack.

- There must be a receiver near the area the QB throws the ball in order to avoid grounding being called. Then it is the ref's judgment.

 

Please correct or add to the above if I am wrong.

There isn't a "tackle box" in high school football. It doesn't matter if he threw it past the first down marker. In high school football, every pass has to be thrown with the intention of completing the pass. Except for clock management, the quarterback may take the snap and immediately throw it to the ground to stop the clock. Otherwise, anytime the official believes a pass is thrown without the intention of a completion, it is intentional grounding.

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Thanks for clearing this up. Sometimes as football fans its hard to seperate the rules for Highschool, College, and the pro's.

Thanks for clearing this up. Sometimes as football fans its hard to seperate the rules for Highschool, College, and the pro's.

 

Yes it is. Most see more NFL and college games so they are more used to those rules. The favorite thing I love to hear from the fans in the stands is when a DL jumps off sides and jumps back and gets flagged is, "He got back". In High school once the plane is broken, there is no "He got back".

or.... "They broke the huddle with 12 people!!!!!" in high school a substitute has to leave in a reasonable time.

or.... "They broke the huddle with 12 people!!!!!" in high school a substitute has to leave in a reasonable time.

Exactly, that is probably my second favorite.

or.... "They broke the huddle with 12 people!!!!!" in high school a substitute has to leave in a reasonable time.

 

 

Wasn't that a penalty at one time?

Two of the most common rules mis-understandings.

 

No outside the tackles lets you throw it away.

 

No uncatchable rule - interference is interference.

 

The bottom one is mis-understood by lots of fans...and it seems lots of referees at times.

Two of the most common rules mis-understandings.

 

No outside the tackles lets you throw it away.

 

No uncatchable rule - interference is interference.

 

The bottom one is mis-understood by lots of fans...and it seems lots of referees at times.

You hear that complaint in the stands almost every week. Someone will say "it was uncatchable" as a complaint against an interference call. Very common misunderstanding.
There isn't a "tackle box" in high school football. It doesn't matter if he threw it past the first down marker. In high school football, every pass has to be thrown with the intention of completing the pass. Except for clock management, the quarterback may take the snap and immediately throw it to the ground to stop the clock. Otherwise, anytime the official believes a pass is thrown without the intention of a completion, it is intentional grounding.

 

Is there a certain reason why high school has this rule as where in college/nfl once you get outside of the tackle box you can throw the ball away as long as it makes it past the line of scrimmage

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Is there a certain reason why high school has this rule as where in college/nfl once you get outside of the tackle box you can throw the ball away as long as it makes it past the line of scrimmage

 

I don't know the reasoning, but it is different. It's just one of those rules that differ from the College game and NFL.

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