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Colerain (OH) Coach Confronts St. Xavier (OH) Student Section

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I agree completely.

The newspaper article never mentioned anything about a cheer from Colerain that instigated the situation.

And ... any jounalist who has an ounce of integrity would report the entire story.

So ... I wonder ... did Colerain even do anything?

 

I think it is funny that Tom Bolden has more respect for the higher being in question than the St. X student body does.

 

Last .. "we have girls" ... means ... WE HAVE GIRLS.

I understand where some of you immediately jump to conclusions as to the meaning.

But .. if I went to an all boys school ... I don't think that I would immediately assume that the meaning of the cheer had homophobic overtones.

I understand where some would ... but ... those are people who are looking to make a situation into what they want it to be.

 

And again .. I am calling bull on anyone from St. X who says that this happened the way it did.

At the same time you have to ask why a student section would suddenly break out the cheer after the game for no reason. In other words, we are missing parts of the story.
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No excuse. No matter what the cheer was or when it was. There is no way a coach (leader and mentor) of high school athletes should ever react in such a manner to this situation. You just can't show your players how to lose composure when things get really hard. Next week a couple of players could "lose it" and throw some late hits. They could always say, "but coach, you don't know he said." The coach made a bad choice, as we are all capable of doing. It was not a good example of "mental toughness" that I am sure he tries to coach.

Who said anything about losing their composure?

Did you ever stop to consider that he was actually taking a leadership role ... by fighting for more respect for the higher being in question?

Let me answer that for you ... no you don't know. Neither do I.

Some times ... leadership is stepping up and SAYING SOMETHING WHEN NO ONE ELSE WILL.

 

Lord forbid someone in this world actually stands up for what they believe in.

Maybe good ole' Coach Bolden was being the exact type of role model that this world needs.

And again ... pretty funny that a public school coach has more respect for the higher being in question than this private school that is based in faith.

The "H" word is getting ready to come out ....

 

No excuse. No matter what the cheer was or when it was. There is no way a coach (leader and mentor) of high school athletes should ever react in such a manner to this situation. You just can't show your players how to lose composure when things get really hard. Next week a couple of players could "lose it" and throw some late hits. They could always say, "but coach, you don't know he said." The coach made a bad choice, as we are all capable of doing. It was not a good example of "mental toughness" that I am sure he tries to coach.

B. Some us do not restrict our interests to this side of the river.

 

What amazes me is that this board shows far more interest in the other side of the river than to the South of I-64.

 

Off topic, I know.

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What amazes me is that this board shows far more interest in the other side of the river than to the South of I-64.

 

Off topic, I know.

 

I do not live south of 64. I live 30 minutes from Colerain and X.

 

If you want more talk south of 64 then have at it. It is not upto us NKY folk.

Who said anything about losing their composure?

Did you ever stop to consider that he was actually taking a leadership role ... by fighting for more respect for the higher being in question?

Let me answer that for you ... no you don't know. Neither do I.

Some times ... leadership is stepping up and SAYING SOMETHING WHEN NO ONE ELSE WILL.

 

Lord forbid someone in this world actually stands up for what they believe in.

Maybe good ole' Coach Bolden was being the exact type of role model that this world needs.

And again ... pretty funny that a public school coach has more respect for the higher being in question than this private school that is based in faith.

The "H" word is getting ready to come out ....

 

Since we are referencing the "Higher Being" aka God the Creator, let me remind you that He is actually the only one who knows what I took time to consider. You being human do not know what I considered. Not being mean, just honest.

 

Here is why I did not conclude that the coach's actions was an honorable leadership role that you say I did not take time to consider. It is obvious and reported that the Colerain students/fans at some points chanted questionable chants toward the St. X fans and team. If the Colerain coach was motivated out of a pure and honest leadership role to stand for what is right, why did he not confront the Colerain students in the same manner for their disrespectful behavior.

 

In short, he was either double standard by only publicly standing against one groups disrespect OR he lost composure in the moment and made a bad choice. I will let you answer for yourself.

I think it's sad that this situation has gotten this much attention. However, when you are considered a leader and one of the best at what you do, it's bound to happen.

 

Let me be perfectly clear here. I was at the game. I saw what happened. And I spoke with Coach Bolden about it specifically after the game. I know exactly what happened, how it happened, and what was said.

 

Coach Bolden did the right thing. It is a real shame that more people can't see that. It's not 1950 anymore folks...there are some cheers that are not appropriate and cheering, nay, taunting the other team by claiming they don't have Jesus because they don't go to a private school is in poor taste at best.

 

What's really sad is that no one is asking where the St. X administrators were during this debacle? Why did it take the head coach of the opposing team to leave his huddle...WAY AFTER THE GAME WAS OVER....walk all the way across the field to address the situation? You gotta believe there was a St. X admin SOMEWHERE in the vicinity, wouldn't you? Why didn't they step up and do something about it?

 

Nevertheless, the important thing is that this was the only blackmark on the entire evening. It was an AWESOME football game between two very good football teams. The young men were respectful towards each other before, during and after the game. Many hugs and handshakes. I was thoroughly impressed. Bolden and Specht met each other at mid-field and embraced as rival coaches and friends. Well done across the board.

 

Please don't let this paint a poor picture of either team, program or community.

 

-CardinalsFan

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CF, you are saying this happened "way after the game was over."

 

You are saying tje X students stayed in the stands that long and continued to cheer? How long are we talking?

Here is why I did not conclude that the coach's actions was an honorable leadership role that you say I did not take time to consider. It is obvious and reported that the Colerain students/fans at some points chanted questionable chants toward the St. X fans and team. If the Colerain coach was motivated out of a pure and honest leadership role to stand for what is right, why did he not confront the Colerain students in the same manner for their disrespectful behavior.

How do YOU know he didn't??

 

You weren't there, obviously, so....see what I'm saying?

 

-CF

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Cf, did you watch this event unfold?

CF, you are saying this happened "way after the game was over."

 

You are saying tje X students stayed in the stands that long and continued to cheer? How long are we talking?

Probably 5-10 minutes after the game.

 

The student section for X stays in their seats until the team comes over to sing the alma mater. That doesn't happen until after the team does their huddle on the field and that took a solid 5 minutes. Then, the entire team gets up and in "Notre Dame" style, runs to the stands and sways back and forth, with the student section, arm in arm, singing the St. Xavier fight song. Happens every game.

 

The Student section for St. Xavier stays in their seats/section probably up to 20 minutes after the final second ticks off the clock.

 

But again...for those that weren't there, how could they know these insignificant facts?? :rolleyes:

 

-CardinalsFan

Cf, did you watch this event unfold?

 

Let me be perfectly clear here. I was at the game. I saw what happened. And I spoke with Coach Bolden about it specifically after the game. I know exactly what happened, how it happened, and what was said.

 

-CardinalsFan

 

Answer your question?

 

-CF

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Answer your question?

 

-CF

 

Oops. Missed that.

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If we are to believe (I do not) that when one side cheers about having girls that it is intended to mean how cool it is to have females solving math problems side by side their male counterparts then why shouldnt we believe that the X boys literally are thrilled that they are blessed to be able to pray in school unlike their public school brethren?

It sounds to me like the Colerain coach was wrong. Now can I get an "AMEN"?!

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