July 23, 201115 yr I know you are not a Massett guy and once again I'll repeat myself here. It was a totally DIFFERENT situation. One size does not fit all! He should have never given in to Uggla with the way he had been swinging lately. I would like to think that the bench, (who relies so much on stats), knows that he has been swinging much better lately. He just missed the strike pitch before and fouled it straight back. With first base open why give in to him? I'm sure Uggla was thinking I'm guessing fastball why don't you throw me one. I lay some of the blame on Hanigan if he called the pitch and Massett didn't shake him off. If anything Massett sometimes thinks he can blow people away with 95mph stuff. He's not that good to rely on the fastball all the time. Prado is having a better year than anyone on the Braves. People would've complained about that if they walk Uggla. Bottom line, hit your spots. Massett is the only one to blame.
July 23, 201115 yr Author Prado is having a better year than anyone on the Braves. People would've complained about that if they walk Uggla. Bottom line, hit your spots. Massett is the only one to blame. Hitting is all about the situation. Look at stats for different counts and tell me who has the advantage when. Batters for the most part are guess hitters. We all know how hard it is to hit a round ball with a round bat when you only have a split second to make a decision to swing or not. If it was easy we'd all have made more money than we have playing a kids game. The bottom lne is that a pitcher needs to try to keep the advantage on his side and the way he does that is by having the count in his favor. Anytime you throw a fastball hitter a fastball in a count where he is looking for it you are asking for trouble. These guys can usually center it when they know its coming. My point is that you don't give in and you move on to the next batter if you lose him and try to get ahead in the count on him. Nobody in baseball gets a hit everytime they come to the plate and very good hitters get one only every 3 times they come to the plate. You're right it was Massett's fault but he could have used some help making an important decision in a crucial situation. The President of the United States doesn't make all the calls by himself, thank God!
July 23, 201115 yr I'm not following, who are you suggesting helps? Catcher's know the scouting report better than anyone. It's useless if the guy can't hit his spots. Uggla did a nice job of fouling off a good curveball on the previous pitch so you couldn't go back to that.
July 23, 201115 yr Hitting is all about the situation. Look at stats for different counts and tell me who has the advantage when. Batters for the most part are guess hitters. We all know how hard it is to hit a round ball with a round bat when you only have a split second to make a decision to swing or not. If it was easy we'd all have made more money than we have playing a kids game. The bottom lne is that a pitcher needs to try to keep the advantage on his side and the way he does that is by having the count in his favor. Anytime you throw a fastball hitter a fastball in a count where he is looking for it you are asking for trouble. These guys can usually center it when they know its coming. My point is that you don't give in and you move on to the next batter if you lose him and try to get ahead in the count on him. Nobody in baseball gets a hit everytime they come to the plate and very good hitters get one only every 3 times they come to the plate. You're right it was Massett's fault but he could have used some help making an important decision in a crucial situation. The President of the United States doesn't make all the calls by himself, thank God! The best hitters in the league are not guess hitters. Uggla very well may be a guess hitter...and that's probably why he's hitting below .200 on the season.
July 23, 201115 yr Hitting is all about the situation. Look at stats for different counts and tell me who has the advantage when. Batters for the most part are guess hitters. We all know how hard it is to hit a round ball with a round bat when you only have a split second to make a decision to swing or not. If it was easy we'd all have made more money than we have playing a kids game. The bottom lne is that a pitcher needs to try to keep the advantage on his side and the way he does that is by having the count in his favor. Anytime you throw a fastball hitter a fastball in a count where he is looking for it you are asking for trouble. These guys can usually center it when they know its coming. My point is that you don't give in and you move on to the next batter if you lose him and try to get ahead in the count on him. Nobody in baseball gets a hit everytime they come to the plate and very good hitters get one only every 3 times they come to the plate. You're right it was Massett's fault but he could have used some help making an important decision in a crucial situation. The President of the United States doesn't make all the calls by himself, thank God! ◦batting average with 0-0 count= .328 ◦batting average on 1-0 count=.330 ◦batting average with 2-0 count=.343 ◦batting average with 3-0 count= .376 ◦batting average with 0-1 count .313 ◦batting average with 1-1 count= .320 ◦batting average with 2-1 count=.331 ◦batting average with 3-1 count=.346 ◦batting average with 0-2 count=.157 ◦batting average with 1-2 count= .174 ◦batting average with 2-2 count=.193 ◦batting average with 3-2 count=.228 Clearly the pitcher has an advantage with a 3-2 count.
July 23, 201115 yr Author The best hitters in the league are not guess hitters. Uggla very well may be a guess hitter...and that's probably why he's hitting below .200 on the season. Would you define Votto as one of the best hitters? Some of the pitches he swings at are absolutely terrible pitches. Do you think he was not guessing?
July 23, 201115 yr Author Today's lineup. No Bruce again and Stubbs and his 3 Ks yesterday back in the leadoff spot. Hanigan 2 days in a row banged up or not. 1. Stubbs, CF 2. Cozart, SS 3. Votto, 1B 4. Phillips, 2B 5. Lewis, RF 6. Gomes, LF 7. Frazier, 3B 8. Hanigan, C 9. Bailey, P
July 23, 201115 yr Would you define Votto as one of the best hitters? Some of the pitches he swings at are absolutely terrible pitches. Do you think he was not guessing? Every hitter gets fooled. Doesn't mean they are guessing... Of course hitters are going to guess fastball on fastball counts. 3-2 isn't an automatic fastball count. I highly doubt Uggla was guessing anything.
July 23, 201115 yr Author ◦batting average with 0-0 count= .328 ◦batting average on 1-0 count=.330 ◦batting average with 2-0 count=.343 ◦batting average with 3-0 count= .376 ◦batting average with 0-1 count .313 ◦batting average with 1-1 count= .320 ◦batting average with 2-1 count=.331 ◦batting average with 3-1 count=.346 ◦batting average with 0-2 count=.157 ◦batting average with 1-2 count= .174 ◦batting average with 2-2 count=.193 ◦batting average with 3-2 count=.228 Clearly the pitcher has an advantage with a 3-2 count. Where did I say that he didn't? I said that in certain situations the pitcher needs to not give in and start over and get the next guy.
July 23, 201115 yr Where did I say that he didn't? I said that in certain situations the pitcher needs to not give in and start over and get the next guy. So you want him to walk a .200 hitter on the season on a 3-2 count when hitters are batting .228 and start a fresh count when batters are hitting .328. Makes a lot of sense to me...
July 23, 201115 yr Author Every hitter gets fooled. Doesn't mean they are guessing... Of course hitters are going to guess fastball on fastball counts. 3-2 isn't an automatic fastball count. I highly doubt Uggla was guessing anything. Then Votto has been getting fooled an awful lot lately. I'd love to pitch to you anyday if you think that you can react to a 95mph fastball without guessing that it's coming.
July 23, 201115 yr Author So you want him to walk a .200 hitter on the season on a 3-2 count when hitters are batting .228 and start a fresh count when batters are hitting .328. Makes a lot of sense to me... Here we go again with YTD stats. What has the batter done lately? I could care less about his YTD stats. Over the last 8 games he has been hitting .333 (8 for 24) with now 3 HRs.
July 23, 201115 yr Author I'm not following, who are you suggesting helps? Catcher's know the scouting report better than anyone. It's useless if the guy can't hit his spots. Uggla did a nice job of fouling off a good curveball on the previous pitch so you couldn't go back to that. Does the bench have any say in the pitch called?
July 23, 201115 yr Then Votto has been getting fooled an awful lot lately. I'd love to pitch to you anyday if you think that you can react to a 95mph fastball without guessing that it's coming. You don't react to a fastball. You assume a fastball is coming and react to the offspeed pitch. You must not have played a lot of baseball if you've never heard that saying.
July 23, 201115 yr Here we go again with YTD stats. What has the batter done lately? I could care less about his YTD stats. Over the last 8 games he has been hitting .333 (8 for 24) with now 3 HRs. And he's batting .190 with a 3-2 count. I'll take my chances with a well executed pitch. Masset didn't execute at all. End of story.
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