July 12, 201115 yr While I agree in principle I would be willing to bet that this will be legally challenged and ruled illegal. All adult apartment complexes are no longer allowed on the basis of discrimination. That is because of housing laws.
July 12, 201115 yr I can see the good and the bad. But if a person has kids who are calm and are no problem there, then why make everyone suffer? Then again, they are not banning all kids, just those under 7.
July 13, 201115 yr With my first of four sons I did this, when I walked into a place I would tell the Host/Hostess to sit us away from people if they could. And I did this with all of them, it worked out pretty good, and we usually went to eat early. They always understood what I was doing. Not my sons the hostess.
July 13, 201115 yr I can see the good and the bad. But if a person has kids who are calm and are no problem there, then why make everyone suffer? Then again, they are not banning all kids, just those under 7.How is anyone being made to suffer?
July 13, 201115 yr I think that its a great idea, but I also don't have young kids. I'd be interested to see if other establishments follow.
July 13, 201115 yr I have a 2 and a half year old that I feel behaves very well in public and I am totally on board with this decision. It makes me crazily nervous that my son acting up could drive people nuts when they are trying to enjoy lunch or dinner out. We don't go out very often, but if we did and there was a place we liked with this rule we would understand and go somewhere else.
July 13, 201115 yr Are you sure? A couple of years ago there was a restaurant in Mason Ohio who put up a sign that said soemthing like "You must speak English, if not you will be refused". Clearly aimed at the hispanic community. It was either the county or the state said he could do that as it's a private business, but said it wasn't the best PR move. You can't discriminate against someone due to race, nationality, or alienage. I'm not sure, but I think that that restaurant owner lost. If he won, it was b/c he opened the door for all people, but only if they spoke English. I don't see how that would be ok. The Supreme Court says that even though these are privately owned companies, if each company decided that they would not serve people because of color or nationality, it was would negatively affect Interstate Commerce. Therefore, it is illegal.
July 13, 201115 yr I have a 2 and a half year old that I feel behaves very well in public and I am totally on board with this decision. It makes me crazily nervous that my son acting up could drive people nuts when they are trying to enjoy lunch or dinner out. We don't go out very often, but if we did and there was a place we liked with this rule we would understand and go somewhere else. I am right there with you! :thumb:
July 13, 201115 yr You can't discriminate against someone due to race, nationality, or alienage. I'm not sure, but I think that that restaurant owner lost. If he won, it was b/c he opened the door for all people, but only if they spoke English. I don't see how that would be ok. The Supreme Court says that even though these are privately owned companies, if each company decided that they would not serve people because of color or nationality, it was would negatively affect Interstate Commerce. Therefore, it is illegal. Can you discriminate by age? I don't think you can against the elderly? Not sure how this would apply. I'm OK with this guys decision as a business owner, though we took our kids with us often and I don't mind seeing kids out. I can see how it could be disrupting. Worse dining experience I ever had was going to the Precinct for my anniversary and sitting at a table next to 2 edlerly women talking about their health issues. Didn't do much for the mood of the evening. :madman:
July 13, 201115 yr I like his rule and wish more places had this rule. But I agree it probably is not legal. Could he also say no elderly?
July 13, 201115 yr You can't discriminate against someone due to race, nationality, or alienage. I'm not sure, but I think that that restaurant owner lost. If he won, it was b/c he opened the door for all people, but only if they spoke English. I don't see how that would be ok. The Supreme Court says that even though these are privately owned companies, if each company decided that they would not serve people because of color or nationality, it was would negatively affect Interstate Commerce. Therefore, it is illegal.That is what I was thinking at the time, but RTS was correct, it wasn't anything protected, it was about communication. Not sure why the guy did it, as money has one color!
July 13, 201115 yr How is anyone being made to suffer?Well, if a family who has kids under 7 that are not a problem. Just deal with the ones who are a problem. I disagree with people that say kids like this are a result of bad parenting, I have seen families with kids who are calm enough where they are not an issue, but another kid in the family around the same age is all over the place. Just like adults, some kids are high strung and won't listen no matter what you say or do.
July 13, 201115 yr While I agree in principle I would be willing to bet that this will be legally challenged and ruled illegal. All adult apartment complexes are no longer allowed on the basis of discrimination. That must be a state law, because they are definitely allowed here. Also 55 and older apartment complexes, condos, and trailer park, I mean, mobile home communities are legal.
July 13, 201115 yr Well, if a family who has kids under 7 that are not a problem. Just deal with the ones who are a problem. I disagree with people that say kids like this are a result of bad parenting, I have seen families with kids who are calm enough where they are not an issue, but another kid in the family around the same age is all over the place. Just like adults, some kids are high strung and won't listen no matter what you say or do. Then they go somewhere else. How are they suffering?
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