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Track the NBA Finals - Mavs vs. Heat

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Are you being for real? :lol: No question it is D Wade.

 

Series isn't over. Someone could still be thinking it is Dirk.....

 

At this time, DWade has to be the choice for the Heat.

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Series isn't over. Someone could still be thinking it is Dirk.....

 

At this time, DWade has to be the choice for the Heat.

 

I thought you meant between Wade and James. :thumb:

I heard it was 11-11

 

That's what I posted before the game. I read that from Gregg Doyel.

Brand and KG are a shell of themselves. I think that is painfully obvious. Boozer has underperformed ever since he left Cleveland.

 

Who cares they're all in the same tax bracket and he outplayed them all. He hit big shots tonight. He's better than Chandler this series. He's over paid, but they all are. It's money well spent.

I thought you meant between Wade and James. :thumb:

 

I could see where you could have thought that. I should have clarified. Only Gloria James would think that at this point and time.

He isn't even sweating right now. There is a reason Miami hasn't been as good offensively in this series. They are best when he's the one making plays for everyone and he's been hiding all series long.

 

Huh? Just because James is not the one leading them right now, does not mean they haven't been as good offensively. In the Bulls series the Heat scored 82,85,96,101, and 83. The game they had 101 they went to overtime. Then the 5th game when they had 83 they only had 60 something with 3 minutes left before Wade and James went off. Now in this series they have scored 92,93, and 88 so they have scored at a higher average so far with Wade and Lebron basically switching roles with Wade leading them and James not doing much. So I am not sure where you get that they are not doing as well offensively. They looked pretty bad offensively against the Bulls actually when Lebron was leading them and Wade struggling.

 

Hopefully James can come up big though eventually like Wade did in games 4 and 5 though against the Bulls, because they will need James to help out eventually like Wade had to do to help beat the Bulls in games 4 and 5.

Who cares they're all in the same tax bracket and he outplayed them all. He hit big shots tonight. He's better than Chandler this series. He's over paid, but they all are. It's money well spent.

 

If he is going to be in the same tax bracket as Wade and James he needs to play like Wade and James not be ...."better than Chandler".....he only hit one big shot last night...he almost had another turnover at an awful time last night also.

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I do think the LBJ criticism is unwarranted. The Heat are now up 2-1. Wade has Kidd guarding him. LBJ does the right thing and lets Wade handle the rock and create(even though I still despise the iso offense they keep running)the Heat win and LBJ still is vilified in the press and publicly. MJ got even more praise heaped upon him for passing the rock and LBJ gets ridiculed? In game 2 after Wade played great but got one touch in the last two minutes everybody blamed LBJ and he became not so clutch again and gets blasted. In game 3 he lets Wade have the rock and LBJ still gets blasted. I thought LBJ did great in game 1 also. It is like Van Gundy said except now the Heat won and he still can't win. I have never felt like LBJ set out to be better than MJ like Kobe did but the expectations for LBJ have officially hit the unrealistic stratosphere for me. It is obvious to me that if he doesn't win 7 titles he will be looked at as a failure. And that is sad.

 

I am not saying he should be MVP either because that should be Wade or Dirk but it blows my mind to see LBJ treated the way he is. Makes me want to see guys like Durant and Rose fail so I can see what kind of treatment they get.

If he is going to be in the same tax bracket as Wade and James he needs to play like Wade and James not be ...."better than Chandler".....he only hit one big shot last night...he almost had another turnover at an awful time last night also.

 

Tose are 2 of the top 5 guys in the league. He's one of the best 20 players in basketball and he's a very good big guy. He's paid what he should be according to other NBA bigs and their contracts.

Tose are 2 of the top 5 guys in the league. He's one of the best 20 players in basketball and he's a very good big guy. He's paid what he should be according to other NBA bigs and their contracts.

 

He's definitely getting the money that is available to him according to to where his value is. I just think he is overpaid and overrated. As most of these guys are. That's all I am saying. You say he is playing better than Brand, KG and Boozer and to me with the exception of Brand you get the same from Bosh, Boozer and KG. If I had to pick one of those 4 for my 2012 team I wouldn't. They all disappoint me at the power forward/4 spot.

He's definitely getting the money that is available to him according to to where his value is. I just think he is overpaid and overrated. As most of these guys are. That's all I am saying. You say he is playing better than Brand, KG and Boozer and to me with the exception of Brand you get the same from Bosh, Boozer and KG. If I had to pick one of those 4 for my 2012 team I wouldn't. They all disappoint me at the power forward/4 spot.

 

While they may disappoint you they're in the top half of players at that position and Bosh was better than all of them. I think they're all overpaid except 5 or so guys. He however is worth what he's paid according to others at his position.

While they may disappoint you they're in the top half of players at that position and Bosh was better than all of them. I think they're all overpaid except 5 or so guys. He however is worth what he's paid according to others at his position.

 

 

Not disputing any of that. After Amare, Blake Griffin and Kevin Love the power forward position gets bad quickly but when big guys are needed then it becomes easy to see why they are paid the way they are.

Huh? Just because James is not the one leading them right now, does not mean they haven't been as good offensively. In the Bulls series the Heat scored 82,85,96,101, and 83. The game they had 101 they went to overtime. Then the 5th game when they had 83 they only had 60 something with 3 minutes left before Wade and James went off. Now in this series they have scored 92,93, and 88 so they have scored at a higher average so far with Wade and Lebron basically switching roles with Wade leading them and James not doing much. So I am not sure where you get that they are not doing as well offensively. They looked pretty bad offensively against the Bulls actually when Lebron was leading them and Wade struggling.

 

Hopefully James can come up big though eventually like Wade did in games 4 and 5 though against the Bulls, because they will need James to help out eventually like Wade had to do to help beat the Bulls in games 4 and 5.

 

FC if you're really comparing the Mavericks defense to the Bulls then this is the only response I'm going to make to you in this thread. 85 against Chicago is way different than 85 against the Mavs.

I do think the LBJ criticism is unwarranted. The Heat are now up 2-1. Wade has Kidd guarding him. LBJ does the right thing and lets Wade handle the rock and create(even though I still despise the iso offense they keep running)the Heat win and LBJ still is vilified in the press and publicly. MJ got even more praise heaped upon him for passing the rock and LBJ gets ridiculed? In game 2 after Wade played great but got one touch in the last two minutes everybody blamed LBJ and he became not so clutch again and gets blasted. In game 3 he lets Wade have the rock and LBJ still gets blasted. I thought LBJ did great in game 1 also. It is like Van Gundy said except now the Heat won and he still can't win. I have never felt like LBJ set out to be better than MJ like Kobe did but the expectations for LBJ have officially hit the unrealistic stratosphere for me. It is obvious to me that if he doesn't win 7 titles he will be looked at as a failure. And that is sad.

 

I am not saying he should be MVP either because that should be Wade or Dirk but it blows my mind to see LBJ treated the way he is. Makes me want to see guys like Durant and Rose fail so I can see what kind of treatment they get.

 

I'll say this about LeBron, not many guys of his stature in the history of the NBA would let DWade do his thing like he has the last two games. You think Jordan let's Wade go nuts and take the glory? No way. Maybe winning is number 1 for him right now, no matter how they get it done. I just wish he was a little more aggressive in this series, but there may be a time for that. As for the MVP, Jordan is the only guy with more than 2 Championships that has been the MVP every single time I believe.

I'll say this about LeBron, not many guys of his stature in the history of the NBA would let DWade do his thing like he has the last two games. You think Jordan let's Wade go nuts and take the glory? No way. Maybe winning is number 1 for him right now, no matter how they get it done. I just wish he was a little more aggressive in this series, but there may be a time for that. As for the MVP, Jordan is the only guy with more than 2 Championships that has been the MVP every single time I believe.

 

Looking at the stat part of the story Wade hasn't taken less than 19 shots in a game. LBJ hasn't taken more than 16. Wade is shooting 56% and LBJ is shooting 51%. Wade is averaging 29, 9 and 5 a game and LBJ is at 20, 7 and 6. Wade is being guarded by Kidd and LBJ by Marion. Things look about how they should IMO with the Heat up 2-1.

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