Let me throw something out here that many may not know. This rule has done great things for the states middle school football teams. Almost all of the states colleges now offer a middle schoool 7 on 7 in either May or June. They would not have this opportunity to do this if high school 7 on 7 was going on in June. This has allowed many middle school kids a chance to get noticed at these colleges by the coaches, and they can keep on eye on their high school career. Currently there are 15 middle school 7 on 7 in May and June with most major colleges having them: Western, Cumberland, UK, UofL, I believe Morehead is working on possibly having one.

Bigger emphasis? No question about it. Better products on the field by a lot? I still don't think so, not compared to other states (not meaning to get side-tracked). Kentucky's biggest problem is the lack of overall talent when compared to our southern neighbors (and northern when talking about Ohio), and that gap will never change. Not in my lifetime anyway.

 

Great thoughts Cats.

 

I do think population has something to do with the talent level. Texas, Florida, Ohio, California and Pennsylvania are all much bigger than Kentucky. Souther states have better weather, and I think being in better weather produces better athletes. I don't know if that is scientific or not, but I'm almost completely convinced that it plays some difference. I think heat and weather has to have something to do with muscle memory, flexibility, and a bunch of other factors. Maybe I'm just nuts though with that theory :thumb:.

Let me throw something out here that many may not know. This rule has done great things for the states middle school football teams. Almost all of the states colleges now offer a middle schoool 7 on 7 in either May or June. They would not have this opportunity to do this if high school 7 on 7 was going on in June. This has allowed many middle school kids a chance to get noticed at these colleges by the coaches, and they can keep on eye on their high school career. Currently there are 15 middle school 7 on 7 in May and June with most major colleges having them: Western, Cumberland, UK, UofL, I believe Morehead is working on possibly having one.

 

Really? Do you not think the High School Basketball coach has those basketball kids that play football going to their basketball camps as well??

Several years ago, a group of basketball coaches and football coaches (no one will admit they were part of this group) decided that to make things more harmonious, basketball should get June, no school versus school 7 on 7's and all players that play both basketball and football should be encouraged to participate in basketball in June. Then, football would get July, no school versus school basketball in July and all players that play both basketball and football should be encouraged to participate in football in July.

 

Unfortunately this is exctly what has happened...you need to only look at those schools who shut it down in June to see who they probably were...that and find some of the better basketball schools in the state. I think that most football coaches as others have stated are upset because they no longer have the "option" of doing more in June...for some teams it can be more beneficial than for others.

 

As for Trinity...Harry did a good job portraying the things that make Trinity successful. Trinity opts not to do spring practice...many people might think that is giving up 10 practices...they don't. What each program and the success of that program boils down to 1st Talent 2nd a coaches ability to have kids, parents, ADMINISTRATORS, buy in to their vision, philosophies, and expectations to becoming the best IMO...

Funny, that may be the case, or the football coaches that were part of it, just don't want to have anything in June and thought this was a good way for the competition to not have the opportunity to do anything either. Kind of, it doesn't make them look bad for taking a month off, because it's the rules.

 

Right on IMO.

Why are we always hearing about what one sport has and what one doesn't, or what one state does and one doesn't.

 

How hard is it to understand that not all sports and states are created equally? If football wants to be more like baseball, play every day. If basketball, play twice a week. There's a reason that doesn't happen. The sports are DIFFERENT.

 

Right on IMO.

 

If Trinity and Highlands, without a question the best two programs in the state put emphasis on June don't you think the rest of the state should? There is a reason they win and maybe this is one of them. NOTICE i said one of them.

If Trinity and Highlands, without a question the best two programs in the state put emphasis on June don't you think the rest of the state should? There is a reason they win and maybe this is one of them. NOTICE i said one of them.

 

I think that most of the State does...I was stating right on because of the statement that was made...The June/July deal was done below the table with a group of Football and Basketball coaches who wanted to see this happen...it makes the football coaches who don't like working all of June look better and gives them more reason to not work as hard in June because "It's a rule"...with that said, because of number and depth, Trinity and highlands can get great practice reps with "just there kids" and therefore are getting that much further ahead of the game.

I think that most of the State does...I was stating right on because of the statement that was made...The June/July deal was done below the table with a group of Football and Basketball coaches who wanted to see this happen...it makes the football coaches who don't like working all of June look better and gives them more reason to not work as hard in June because "It's a rule"...with that said, because of number and depth, Trinity and highlands can get great practice reps with "just there kids" and therefore are getting that much further ahead of the game.

 

 

The bolded is a great point. If a team has quality depth, the lack of inter-school 7 on 7 competition won't hurt that team much at all. The rule will hurt those schools that don't have much quality depth. But I have a feeling that some of the coaches that voted to eliminate inter-school competition in June will conveniently forget the fact that they voted for a rule that made it harder for them to compete against Trinity and Highlands when they complain about Trinity's or Highlands' advantages. Oh well. Next some coaches will be advocating eliminating all practice time in June, which I pray goes no where. It's hard enough dealing with heat acclimation as it is. Take away all June practice time and the situation will become very dangerous.