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Why are St. X and Trinity so good?

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Your right they have make due with only 1100. :rolleyes: They also have a good coach. Seems kinda strange if numbers and a coach is all you need.

That none of the kids like.........Your talking one team in the state.They should be very good every year.But when nobody comes out for the team your not going to win........... :thumb:

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I know I'm going to get drilled for this one, and with no disrespect meant for Beatty, Glaser, et. al., but the "coaching" thing for me has always been chicken or the egg. Take a private coach, look at his record at public schools before he got to the private school, does he have the same track record? Or did he just not "put guys in the correct positions" when he was there? Look at LexCath's coach for example. Or, alternatively, are there examples of a private school coach leaving and going to a public school? What is the record there? Coaches are wonderful, they motivate kids, they raise them up to be men instead of whining boys, but I have always believe the system fosters that more than the man. IMO, its all about the Benjamins $$$$$

 

Bob Beatty was a very successful coach at Blue Spring H.S. in Missouri prior to taking the Trinity job. He actually had pretty good talent there as well. Three of his former players are in the NFL including Brandon Lloyd of the 49ers, LeDell Betts and another player with the Titans that I can't remember.

I might be wrong....as far as I have seen CSAA coaches are usually just dads that have kids in the program.

From what I've heard, at the Lexington Catholic and Lexington Christian little leauge programs, all coaches go to a clinic given by the high school coaches. Must be a great thing to feed those programs.

8 miles apart, 8 years ahead...........

 

That still doesn't answer the question. If Trinity and St. X are only 8 miles apart, why does one represent the eastern half of the state and one the western? IMO, it's simply to have both teams facing one another each year in the championship game. Is that bad? Not from a monetary and excitement standpoint. If it fair? Hardly.

Sorry for the confusion on the last thread. Now, what makes these private school teams like Trinity and X so good?

lol and lol!!!!!! It's certainly nothing that "publics" know anything about. Maybe the other "privates" have a clue?

I don't think you can rule out the rivalry T/X have developed over the past 35 years. Without the competition, I don’t think either school (including athletics) is at their current level.

 

Also, I think the pure hatred from the public schools drives an “us vs them” attitude through these two teams. Thanks for your help publics!

That still doesn't answer the question. If Trinity and St. X are only 8 miles apart, why does one represent the eastern half of the state and one the western? IMO, it's simply to have both teams facing one another each year in the championship game. Is that bad? Not from a monetary and excitement standpoint. If it fair? Hardly.

If Louisville is to be split in two, and placed on seperate sides of the state bracket, then Trinity and X belong in the seperate districts. Put Louisville schools on a map, and you'll see.

Numbers, no title IX issues along with parental involvement and hardwork= being good every year. Never should be a year without at least one of these teams in a final.

That still doesn't answer the question. If Trinity and St. X are only 8 miles apart, why does one represent the eastern half of the state and one the western? IMO, it's simply to have both teams facing one another each year in the championship game. Is that bad? Not from a monetary and excitement standpoint. If it fair? Hardly.

 

If Henry Clay & Warren Central would've won in the semis...would that have made things more fair? The line would've been drawn in the same place...

If Louisville is to be split in two, and placed on seperate sides of the state bracket, then Trinity and X belong in the seperate districts. Put Louisville schools on a map, and you'll see.

 

That is the point. Why is Louisville split in two? There is ABSOLUTELY NO REASON to split Louisville.

 

In 4A, there are 24 teams in the West and 30 in the East. There are three Louisville teams classified as "East", Trinity, Fern Creek, and Ballard. If you placed these three teams in the West, where they belong, then you have exactly 27 teams in each. That is what makes sense. However, the fact remains that Louisville dominates 4A. There will always be two Louisville teams playing for the state title.

If Henry Clay & Warren Central would've won in the semis...would that have made things more fair? The line would've been drawn in the same place...

 

That has nothing to do with where the line is drawn. Whether or not Henry Clay and Warren won does not justify where the line is drawn. Did Henry Clay and Warren win? Of course not. That is the point. There has been exactly 1 non-Louisville team to win 4A in the past 10 years (Nelson County in 1996) and 2 in the last 16 years. This is my point. Louisville dominates 4A football and the state is going to guarantee two Louisville teams have the opportunity to play in the finals each season.

That has nothing to do with where the line is drawn. Whether or not Henry Clay and Warren won does not justify where the line is drawn. Did Henry Clay and Warren win? Of course not. That is the point. There has been exactly 1 non-Louisville team to win 4A in the past 10 years (Nelson County in 1996) and 2 in the last 16 years. This is my point. Louisville dominates 4A football and the state is going to guarantee two Louisville teams have the opportunity to play in the finals each season.

 

 

The thing is, that it used to be Louisville vs. the state, and people STILL didn't like that a Louisville team was guaranteed a spot. Male, Trinity, X, one of us will most likely be in it no matter how you split it up...Manual probably soon as well. Would you rather have 1 Louisville team GUARANTEED a spot? Or have it all up the teams to play and beat the Louisville teams, and get two non-Louisville teams there? It's always a possibility. Trinity got beaten by Dixie Heights last year. Had Henderson Co beaten St. X, it would have been a non-public final last year.

The thing is, that it used to be Louisville vs. the state, and people STILL didn't like that a Louisville team was guaranteed a spot. Male, Trinity, X, one of us will most likely be in it no matter how you split it up...Manual probably soon as well. Would you rather have 1 Louisville team GUARANTEED a spot? Or have it all up the teams to play and beat the Louisville teams, and get two non-Louisville teams there? It's always a possibility. Trinity got beaten by Dixie Heights last year. Had Henderson Co beaten St. X, it would have been a non-public final last year.

 

I understand your point, but it still does not address the fact that two Louisville schools can get there.

I understand your point, but it still does not address the fact that two Louisville schools can get there.

 

 

The key word is can. Conversely, two non-Louisville teams can get there.

A review ofthe various posts/threads regarding the Public-Private issue reveals one recurring theme that polarizes the two sides. The Public side argues that the playing field is not level because the Privates have inherent, natural advantages: numbers, money, etc.. The Private side argues that the playing field starts level but tilts toward the privates because of the affirmative steps private schools employ-harder work, better coaches, etc.. This leads to the public side feeling that the privates are arrogant because private schools impute that their actions lead to their success instead of their natural advantages leading to their success. The private side feels that the public side does not give them credit for what they believe is success based upon their extra efforts and sacrifices.

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