I usually don't put political signs in my yard but I can't wait to get a Williams/Farmer sign for my front yard. When that politically correct idiot Abramson drives by, I will smile and wave to him. It's going to be so great!!!!!!!!!!

 

So, political correctness is justification for voting against the industry for which our state is most highly recognized?

 

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Jim, LOL!!! How the heck did you come to THAT conclusion????!!!

If you can't despise a guy for trying to take away your booze and gambling what can you despise a guy for?

 

Finally, somebody (other than JS) gets it.:lol:

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Jim, LOL!!! How the heck did you come to THAT conclusion????!!!

 

How else should I read that?

I have had 20 years of issue after issue after issue with Mayor for life Abramson, some of them being personal. And political correctness is wrong when you always side with the minority and ignore what the majority want. GO WILLIAMS/FARMER!!!!

 

Well, I can understand your isolated incident. But whatever Mr. Mayor levied against your son is not a reason to hold back the entire state. As tough as it might seem, this is still a commonwealth, and you should be thinking about the rest of your fellow Ky. residents. Because they're suffering mightily from David Williams' "leadership."

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Jim, LOL!!! How the heck did you come to THAT conclusion????!!!

 

What other reason did he provide?

That's fair enough. I did say that.

 

But, in fairness, I also stated why I wouldn't, and asked for enlightenment as to why I was wrong. Since you won't discuss Abramson, then all I can do is ask for reasons that I should re-think my obstinance.

 

May I ask, is the only reason you're voting for Williams/Farmer the fact that Abramson is on the Democratic ticket? Or are there compelling reasons that are motivating your vote for Williams/Farmer?

Not true. I do think that the firefighters got a raw deal in the merger. I do think that overall, from my perspective, he's done a good job. But I'm open to learning things I may not be aware of.

 

If not this discussion, then can you give me some good reasons to consider Williams? His position on the gas tax, the "sin" tax and putting the casino issue on the ballot for the citizens to vote have me soured on him big time. But, other than his votes on abortion-related issues, I can't think of anything I feel he's done that is beneficial to the state as a whole.

 

RM, could you provide further details on the bolded? Again, I know little about state politics, so this is an honest question & not a challenge. I could look it up myself, I'm sure, but I'm just too lazy...

I'm not crazy about voting for a Williams ticket BUT I WILL NOT vote for an Abramson ticket. Jer' has sold out to every special intertest there is and most damming in my eye is he is very firmly in the hip pockets of unions.

There is a good side to all of this though. The complete and utter crappiness of both sides could help Gatewood get the support he needs.

 

http://www.gatewood.com/site/

Well, I can understand your isolated incident. But whatever Mr. Mayor levied against your son is not a reason to hold back the entire state. As tough as it might seem, this is still a commonwealth, and you should be thinking about the rest of your fellow Ky. residents. Because they're suffering mightily from David Williams' "leadership."

 

None of the "suffering" rests upon anyone other than Williams? Didn't know he had that much control Jim.

How so? He offers zero in the way of solutions to Kentucky's financial issues; he just says no, and instructs the spineless GOP lackeys under him to do so as well. I realize the Democrats in Kentucky aren't exactly ideal, but at least they aren't one big lockstep group devoid of independent thought.

 

The problem is that he has, through his position as Senate President, a larger constituency than just the Bible-thumpers along the Tennessee border. By kowtowing to those people in his district rather than the whole state he is actively destroying our commonwealth's signature industry. To be fair, a lot of that blame can also fall upon the rest of the members of the GOP Senate who are afraid to challenge him.

 

None of the "suffering" rests upon anyone other than Williams? Didn't know he had that much control Jim.

 

Did you miss my two posts addressing this on the first page of the thread? Honestly, how many times can you recall any of the GOP state senators not voting with Williams on a major issue such as a budget? By contrast, it seems like every other day during legislative sessions Williams declares this house bill or that house bill dead on arrival, smug with the knowledge that his fellow GOP senators have no spine to oppose him.

Did you miss my two posts addressing this on the first page of the thread? Honestly, how many times can you recall any of the GOP state senators not voting with Williams on a major issue such as a budget? By contrast, it seems like every other day during legislative sessions Williams declares this house bill or that house bill dead on arrival, smug with the knowledge that his fellow GOP senators have no spine to oppose him.

 

Yes I did, but I still feel the same. If it is as you say "The GOP lackeys are spineless" and "are afraid to challenge him", then I see it as the GOP that is causing all the suffering, not Williams.

 

So all Williams had to do was instruct the GOP to go along with everything, even though their constituants might not agree, and everything would be booming in Kentucky and the suffering would stop?

Yes I did, but I still feel the same. If it is as you say "The GOP lackeys are spineless" and "are afraid to challenge him", then I see it as the GOP that is causing all the suffering, not Williams.

 

So all Williams had to do was instruct the GOP to go along with everything, even though their constituants might not agree, and everything would be booming in Kentucky and the suffering would stop?

 

Sure, that's what you want to read into it.

 

As I noted, Democrats in this state aren't much to behold either, but at least there are players in the General Assembly who can exercise independent thought and action, rather than marching in lockstep with Beshear.

 

Suffering might stop in Kentucky if, instead of just saying no all the time, Williams and his lackeys actually offered some real solutions to the commonwealth's problems. I can't help but wonder if Williams buys his lackeys' loyalty with the kickbacks he gets from the Indiana casinos for blocking expanded gambling.

 

Williams leads the GOP in the General Assembly, so I feel perfectly justified in calling him out for his prominent role in holding Kentucky back.

Sure, that's what you want to read into it.

 

As I noted, Democrats in this state aren't much to behold either, but at least there are players in the General Assembly who can exercise independent thought and action, rather than marching in lockstep with Beshear.

 

Suffering might stop in Kentucky if, instead of just saying no all the time, Williams and his lackeys actually offered some real solutions to the commonwealth's problems. I can't help but wonder if Williams buys his lackeys' loyalty with the kickbacks he gets from the Indiana casinos for blocking expanded gambling.

 

Williams leads the GOP in the General Assembly, so I feel perfectly justified in calling him out for his prominent role in holding Kentucky back.

Plus Williams asks for it when he is grandstanding around looking for the closest camera/reporter/mike/etc.

Sure, that's what you want to read into it.

 

As I noted, Democrats in this state aren't much to behold either, but at least there are players in the General Assembly who can exercise independent thought and action, rather than marching in lockstep with Beshear.

 

Suffering might stop in Kentucky if, instead of just saying no all the time, Williams and his lackeys actually offered some real solutions to the commonwealth's problems. I can't help but wonder if Williams buys his lackeys' loyalty with the kickbacks he gets from the Indiana casinos for blocking expanded gambling.

 

Williams leads the GOP in the General Assembly, so I feel perfectly justified in calling him out for his prominent role in holding Kentucky back.

 

Is expanded gambling, or lack there of that has kentucky held back? I haven't bought in to the fact that it's THE answer yet. I don't oppose it though. The state of kentucky has had some pretty good times without it. I can't say that Williams is the only reason we don't have expanded gambling.