I agree with ACE, but the problem we see when the PIG gave his comments and ACE ask him if he "had read any of Jesus's words". ACE was really quick to say this, and all the poster was doing was giving his think so's. So as a Christian we must respect other people's thoughts and very nicely disagree, WOW if I could only do that myself...

OK, a nice comeback by Ace^^^, and he posted that the same time I was giving my point. We must as "Christians" try to be as Christ like as we can, notice the Word and where it comes from, but we are human and gonna SIN.

I simply mean that many who hold socially conservative views have religious views underpinning them - i.e. gay marriage, abortion, the upholding of traditional Judeo-Christian values, prayer in school, creationism, etc. - but do not have religious views underpinning their economic views, yet those who hold conservative social views typically favor the same type of economic policy. For example, those who believe creationism should be taught in school do so because their belief is informed by the bible, but these same people typically hold laissez-fair economic views with secular justifications. I'm curious as to why this is.

 

I see your point and it is a valid one.

 

I am of the socially conservative mold & also economically conservative mold, and my Christian/Biblical worldview shapes those beliefs. Financially, God asks me to do a few things: 1) Earn money honestly 2) Save money regularly 3) Borrow money reluctantly 4) Give money generously & cheerfully 5) Use money for personal enjoyment (with a huge reminder of living within my means). I like to think that what's good for me as an individual is good for the country.

I simply mean that many who hold socially conservative views have religious views underpinning them - i.e. gay marriage, abortion, the upholding of traditional Judeo-Christian values, prayer in school, creationism, etc. - but do not have religious views underpinning their economic views, yet those who hold conservative social views typically favor the same type of economic policy. For example, those who believe creationism should be taught in school do so because their belief is informed by the bible, but these same people typically hold laissez-fair economic views with secular justifications. I'm curious as to why this is.

 

I'm not sure how religious views would relate to economic views if I understand you correctly. I just don't see a connection like I do with social views.

I'm not sure how religious views would relate to economic views if I understand you correctly. I just don't see a connection like I do with social views.

 

Much of Jesus' ministry was spent talking about economics. It is nearly unavoidable to connect them.

Much of Jesus' ministry was spent talking about economics. It is nearly unavoidable to connect them.

 

Was it economics or was it social services he was talking about?

I must say that this is a good subject to "discuss". MOST of the time (for me anyway) it's better to keep my mouth shut and my ears wide open. For the remaining life of this thread, I think that's exactly what I'll do.

Was it economics or was it social services he was talking about?

 

He sure talked a lot about rich and poor.

He sure talked a lot about rich and poor.

 

Indeed, about half of Jesus' parables dealt in some way w/ money.

He sure talked a lot about rich and poor.

 

In what context? How does that relate to Habib's question about underpinning economic views about the government's role in private transactions.

Really, you can think of now warnings that Jesus gives against wealth and the accumulation of stuff? Have you read any of Jesus words?

 

I'll re-ask the question I asked in your other thread on a related subject. Have you sold everything you own and given the profits to the poor?

I'll re-ask the question I asked in your other thread on a related subject. Have you sold everything you own and given the profits to the poor?

 

When I call you out dude, come call me out. Read the thread, see what I have posted. I make no claim to be Jesus, yet I can talk about what I believe are his expectations for me, even if I fall short. Under your guise, no one should ever claim to be a Christian because they are not going to meet the highest expectations. Do you "deny yourself daily?"

C'Mon PIG, you do a great job, lets hear some more and I'll shut up.

Maybe acemona didn't present his first post as well as he could, but he's clarified as the thread has progressed. Isn't it a worthy enough topic to discuss without slamming the thread starter over and over? I think it's a really thought-provoking topic.

I see your point and it is a valid one.

 

I am of the socially conservative mold & also economically conservative mold, and my Christian/Biblical worldview shapes those beliefs. Financially, God asks me to do a few things: 1) Earn money honestly 2) Save money regularly 3) Borrow money reluctantly 4) Give money generously & cheerfully 5) Use money for personal enjoyment (with a huge reminder of living within my means). I like to think that what's good for me as an individual is good for the country.

 

I appreciate the answer, Randy. I'm also not trying to make a particular point, I'm simply curious as to how people answer the question right now.

 

I'm not sure how religious views would relate to economic views if I understand you correctly. I just don't see a connection like I do with social views.

 

What I'm saying is that I observe that those whose religious views inform their social views, for the most part, have very similar economic beliefs. If there is no connection between religious views and economic views, then it would seem this group, as a bloc, would be far more diverse in economic opinions. I'm curious as to why this is the case. I also think that so much of the bible is open to interpretation that it would be just as easy for those you justify social views with biblical foundations to similarly do so with economic views, especially considering the economic nature of many of Jesus's comments. If that is possible, I'm curious why people do not.