McRoberts was completely to blame for that scuffle.

 

From the video I watched, I agree wholeheartedly. :thumb:

The Legend strikes again.

 

Orton's professional career has consited of two summer league games. He is playing more in these games and against better competition than he did all of his brief college experience. I will hold off on judgement for now.

 

I do not see Orton developing as a Center. I see him developing in to a Glen Davis type player. At least that is my guess as to how an NBA team would want to use him.

I have been saying since the SEC Tournament that Orton had more issues that Cousins.

 

That very well may be the case. In fairness though, Orton did not have the same opportunity as Cousins to work through a lot of his issues on the court as Cousins did. He lacks in maturity. But he also lacks in playing maturity at a higher level beyond high school.

I think Daniel will be fine with time, but I do think that it will be a hindrance as much as a help to not have much playing time. Yes, he will get to develop and go against the best center in the NBA in Dwight Howard, but he will lack the experience of playing against other teams for years. I will continue to think that he would have benefited in so many ways by another year in college. He would have been the man at the position, and he would have had a year to hone his skill. And then when he went, he would have potentially been a lottery pick.

That very well may be the case. In fairness though, Orton did not have the same opportunity as Cousins to work through a lot of his issues on the court as Cousins did. He lacks in maturity. But he also lacks in playing maturity at a higher level beyond high school.

 

Cousins never left the floor and went to the lockerroom, he didn't leave school without finishing the semester, Cousin's parents never ran their mouth to the media.

 

Cousins has the rep, Orton the substance. I'm going on record as saying that Orton will have more problems on and off the court than Cousins.

Cousins never left the floor and went to the lockerroom, he didn't leave school without finishing the semester, Cousin's parents never ran their mouth to the media.

 

Cousins has the rep, Orton the substance. I'm going on record as saying that Orton will have more problems on and off the court than Cousins.

I am not saying I disagree with you, but had the roles on the team been reversed, something tells me Cousins would have caused some waves as Orton did.

I think Daniel will be fine with time, but I do think that it will be a hindrance as much as a help to not have much playing time. Yes, he will get to develop and go against the best center in the NBA in Dwight Howard, but he will lack the experience of playing against other teams for years. I will continue to think that he would have benefited in so many ways by another year in college. He would have been the man at the position, and he would have had a year to hone his skill. And then when he went, he would have potentially been a lottery pick.

 

Do you really think that Orton would have improved his game more on the college level than he would in the NBA working with Patrick Ewing & Dwight Howard?

Do you really think that Orton would have improved his game more on the college level than he would in the NBA working with Patrick Ewing & Dwight Howard?

 

Practice is practice, and games are games. I understand the benefits of practicing against Howard and working with Ewing, but practice can only take you so far. I think a year of game experience would have done him more good than a year (and probably multiple years) on the bench. Certainly the money is less.

Everybody just assumes that Orton would have been the guy at center for UK had he stayed. Nobody knows what would have happened. Would Calipari have still recruited the same class?

 

Supposing he'd stayed and Calipari would have landed Kanter and Jones, there's no guarantee that Orton would have started as a sophomore. If Kanter and Jones are as good as advertised, there's a decent chance Orton would have been coming off the bench again.

 

I'm not saying he wouldn't have benefitted from another year in college because he'd almost certainly see more PT there than with Orlando next season, but he could have possibly been in a similar situation.

 

I wish him well and think he's got the potential to be a solid player for some NBA team in the future. He's got the size and athleticism to be a strong defender and rebounder and that's a valuable commodity in the league. Offensively, I don't know if he'll ever be a post-up threat, but he has the potential to develop a mid-range jumpshot and be a guy who makes open, face-up jump shots. Guys like that are solid role players in the NBA and Orton certainly has that potential.

 

The guy played just over 10 minutes per game in his one year of college. He's not going to light the league up as soon as the light turns green. He's a project. Passing judgment on Orton prior to giving him some time to develop is premature.

I think he is awful and will be bad in the NBA. I liked him coming into college but I think it's obvious that he just isn't that good. I didn't particularly care if he stayed or went, but I think I'm glad he left.

If Orton staying meant Kanter not coming, then I'm as happy as can be that he left.

If Orton staying meant Kanter not coming, then I'm as happy as can be that he left.

 

:thumb: I just hope he gets eligible.