While these players have performed well at the NFL level, playing at less than a D-1 program proves you are not good enough to make the "best of the best" cut. Sincerely, Joe Flacco

 

Hello Joe Flacco

How were your first 2 years playing at the University of Pittsburgh a division 1 fbs team? Then you went to Deleware which is also a division 1 program! I hope you don't play well this year so the Bengals can sweep you again.

Sincerely

Thenamerobdigity

That's quite a list ! Looks like D1 schools overlook tons of talented players on a regular basis.

 

Good enough is good enough when you have given 100% and know that you could do no better than you did , no matter where you end up.

 

This is the post I agree with the most.

Hello Joe Flacco

How were your first 2 years playing at the University of Pittsburgh a division 1 fbs team? Then you went to Deleware which is also a division 1 program! I hope you don't play well this year so the Bengals can sweep you again.

Sincerely

Thenamerobdigity

 

Having been banished to the NCAA football championship subdivision at Delaware and a paltry $30 million dollar contract for the Ravens, I hardly think Joe Flacco has standing to comment on when good is good enough. Yours Truly, Pierre Garcon.

Having been banished to the NCAA football championship subdivision at Delaware and a paltry $30 million dollar contract for the Ravens, I hardly think Joe Flacco has standing to comment on when good is good enough. Yours Truly, Pierre Garcon.

 

I don't understand your point. Joe Flacco played division 1 football. Deleware is division 1, Pitt is division 1 fbs. Please tell me what you mean about Joe Flacco and how it is not in agreement with earlier posts.

 

Pierre Garcon was not a great high school football player. If you are "good enough" in high school you get a division 1 scholarship. He developed late as a college player and became a NFL player. In high school he was not "good enough" to get a division 1 scholarship. Show me where he was offered by a d-1 school and turned it down and chose to play for a d-3 school. This is a high school website where we talk about high school football. The judgement that college coaches make on how talented player are on how the players perform in high school.

A student who plays D-III is not good enough because other players compete at the higher level of D-II who in turn are not good enough because other players compete at the higher level of I-AA (Football Championship Division) who in turn are not good enough because other players compete at the higher level of D-I in a mid-major conference who in turn are not good enough because other players compete in a BCS conference, etc. etc.

 

The thread has included numerous examples of players who did not play college ball at at the highest level of competition but worked hard to build on the foundation established during high school to become superior players.

 

If a player puts forth a maximum effort to become the best possible player he can be, that is good enough.

 

Conversly, a player blessed with natural athletic talent, size, speed, etc. who doesn't work hard to develop his skills is not good enough, even if he receives a scholarship to play at the highest level of D-1.

A student who plays D-III is not good enough because other players compete at the higher level of D-II who in turn are not good enough because other players compete at the higher level of I-AA (Football Championship Division) who in turn are not good enough because other players compete at the higher level of D-I in a mid-major conference who in turn are not good enough because other players compete in a BCS conference, etc. etc.

 

The thread has included numerous examples of players who did not play college ball at at the highest level of competition but worked hard to build on the foundation established during high school to become superior players.

 

If a player puts forth a maximum effort to become the best possible player he can be, that is good enough.

 

Conversly, a player blessed with natural athletic talent, size, speed, etc. who doesn't work hard to develop his skills is not good enough, even if he receives a scholarship to play at the highest level of D-1.

 

Of course natural talent has a ton to do with being good at football or else the hardest and smartest workers would be the best. That is not the case in football. I believe the player that best puts a team in the situation to win the game should play, and not nescessarily the hardest worker.

While these players have performed well at the NFL level, playing at less than a D-1 program proves you are not good enough to make the "best of the best" cut. Sincerely, Joe Flacco

 

Again, those people are the EXCEPTION. A much higher % of D1 players make the NFL than D1-AA or DII... however, your argument makes no sense as Joe Flacco was offered and ACCEPTED a D1 scholarship out of HS. He was at Pitt for two years before transferring.

I'll throw out, what in my opinion, is the most repeated lie in high school sports: "If you are good enough, the D1 coaches will find you".

 

How does that factor in? What if you are "good enough", but the D1 coaches don't find you, but the D2 coaches do? Then while playing at the D2 school you prove that you were in deed "good enough" for a D1 scholarship, but you believed the lie that the D1 coaches would find you.

I'll throw out, what in my opinion, is the most repeated lie in high school sports: "If you are good enough, the D1 coaches will find you".

 

How does that factor in? What if you are "good enough", but the D1 coaches don't find you, but the D2 coaches do? Then while playing at the D2 school you prove that you were in deed "good enough" for a D1 scholarship, but you believed the lie that the D1 coaches would find you.

 

I agree with that, although I do believe that D1 coaches are good about finding talent.

I agree with that, although I do believe that D1 coaches are good about finding talent.

 

They are good, but not perfect and a lot of DI talented kids go unoticed. There's way too many high schools out there to find all of the extremely talented kids.

I'll throw out, what in my opinion, is the most repeated lie in high school sports: "If you are good enough, the D1 coaches will find you".

 

How does that factor in? What if you are "good enough", but the D1 coaches don't find you, but the D2 coaches do? Then while playing at the D2 school you prove that you were in deed "good enough" for a D1 scholarship, but you believed the lie that the D1 coaches would find you.

 

I would say if you are good enough for D1 and really want to play D1, you will get your scholarship. You can't rely 100% on them finding you. Sometimes you have to go find them. But if they see you and you have the ability, someone will give you your scholarship ... if you are good enough for D1.

I would say if you are good enough for D1 and really want to play D1, you will get your scholarship. You can't rely 100% on them finding you. Sometimes you have to go find them. But if they see you and you have the ability, someone will give you your scholarship ... if you are good enough for D1.

 

Furthermore, almost any player that is even decent in High School can play at some school, and if they are good enough after that year they can transfer to a D1 program.

How about one of the best QB's to ever come out of the state of Kentucky, Phil Simms Morehead State. He played for the New York Giants and won the Super bowl and made a few Pro bowls. I guess Louisville, Kentucky, and every other D1A schools was wrong about this guy.

How about one of the best QB's to ever come out of the state of Kentucky, Phil Simms Morehead State. He played for the New York Giants and won the Super bowl and made a few Pro bowls. I guess Louisville, Kentucky, and every other D1A schools was wrong about this guy.

 

Coaches did not think he was good enough in high school to get a division 1 scholarship, or he would have been offered by a D1 school. In fact he wasn't even that great in college. His senior year he had 92 completions on 173 attempts. Thats 53% and he only had 6 touchdowns and 11 interceptions finishing 2-6-1. For his career he only had 32 td's and 45 interceptions.

 

That is beside the point, Phil Simms is 55 years old. That is 37 years ago when he finished high school (Assuming he was 18 when he graduated). Recruiting is extremely different today.

Coaches did not think he was good enough in high school to get a division 1 scholarship, or he would have been offered by a D1 school. In fact he wasn't even that great in college. His senior year he had 92 completions on 173 attempts. Thats 53% and he only had 6 touchdowns and 11 interceptions finishing 2-6-1. For his career he only had 32 td's and 45 interceptions.

 

That is beside the point, Phil Simms is 55 years old. That is 37 years ago when he finished high school (Assuming he was 18 when he graduated). Recruiting is extremely different today.

 

Phil Simms didn't have the best talent around him at Morehead State, the pro's knew that, that is why he was the seventh pick over all in the draft, but that is on another topic, I agree recruiting is extremely different today, but my point is not all the best players go to D1A schools. Miles Austin star wide out for the Dallas Cowboys from Monmouth[N.J.], great players fall through the cracks all the time. Recruiting may be different today, but like the old days as well as today recruiting is not prefect, great players get over looked all the time and that is fact.