Yes, great players fall through the cracks. He might not have got noticed by D1 schools at all... or they might have saw him and thought he wasnt good enough. Either way, the facts are that D1 is the best of the best and % wise sends the most players to the NFL by a long shot.

Yes, great players fall through the cracks. He might not have got noticed by D1 schools at all... or they might have saw him and thought he wasnt good enough. Either way, the facts are that D1 is the best of the best and % wise sends the most players to the NFL by a long shot.

 

The fact is that D1 is the best of the best and % wise send most players to the NFL ... The fact is also that D1 coaches miss out on talented players that slip through the cracks and still make it to the NFL. The fact is we will never know what is good enough until the players career is over!!!

The fact is that D1 is the best of the best and % wise send most players to the NFL ... The fact is also that D1 coaches miss out on talented players that slip through the cracks and still make it to the NFL. The fact is we will never know what is good enough until the players career is over!!!

 

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Ok... so basically we arent disagreeing on anything.

Ok... so basically we arent disagreeing on anything.

 

I agree that most of the players that get drafted go to D1A schools and some really great players fall through the cracks all the time as well.

I'll agree with those who say the kids who work hard to reach their potential are good enough. To play D1 you must have a near ideal combination of size, speed, agility, work ethic, etc. There are a few exceptions but not many. I know a couple of kids, one playing D3 and anther NAIA who could have played DI but don't because they wanted a different experience or other reasons.

 

Any kid who works hard and gives his team everything he's got is good enough for me. The ones who play college at any level have something extra and still worked hard.

I know a couple of kids, one playing D3 and anther NAIA who could have played DI but don't because they wanted a different experience or other reasons.

Bingo. And that is one of my points: not everyone who goes to a "less then D1 school" is really "less" then D1.

 

I will give the example of Aaron Pettrey. He could have went to a D2, D3, or NAIA school and played WR/QB. He had several offers. But, his dream was to kick for a D1 school. He did. But, if he was a person who wanted to play another position, he would have went another route. No shame, but he was still a D1 candidate.

 

I have seen quite a few players in my area that had both D1 offers and other size school offers, some chose the D1 route, some did not. They were still D1 recruits, no matter where they went.

Bingo. And that is one of my points: not everyone who goes to a "less then D1 school" is really "less" then D1.

 

I will give the example of Aaron Pettrey. He could have went to a D2, D3, or NAIA school and played WR/QB. He had several offers. But, his dream was to kick for a D1 school. He did. But, if he was a person who wanted to play another position, he would have went another route. No shame, but he was still a D1 candidate.

 

I have seen quite a few players in my area that had both D1 offers and other size school offers, some chose the D1 route, some did not. They were still D1 recruits, no matter where they went.

 

If a player doesn't go D1 and they have the opportunity to, means they don't think they are good enough to go D1, or they are afraid of competition.

 

The Aaron example, he was not "good enough" to play D1 at those other positions because he wasn't offered there.

 

My point is that a ton of kids are "recruited" by D1 schools, but only the ones that are "good enough", get offers. I believe they have to accept the offer to be good enough because i think that is part of the criteria of being good enough. They need to believe in themselves and not be so afraid of competition.

If a player doesn't go D1 and they have the opportunity to, means they don't think they are good enough to go D1, or they are afraid of competition.

 

The Aaron example, he was not "good enough" to play D1 at those other positions because he wasn't offered there.

 

My point is that a ton of kids are "recruited" by D1 schools, but only the ones that are "good enough", get offers. I believe they have to accept the offer to be good enough because i think that is part of the criteria of being good enough. They need to believe in themselves and not be so afraid of competition.

I get it, since you weren't good enough to go D1 and were offered "some" money to play at some lower level school that anyone that had the chance to go D1 and choose to go to a lower level is a loser! By the way, nice collection of ring's. Anyone with that many state ring's should have gone D1!

If a player doesn't go D1 and they have the opportunity to, means they don't think they are good enough to go D1, or they are afraid of competition.

 

The Aaron example, he was not "good enough" to play D1 at those other positions because he wasn't offered there.

 

My point is that a ton of kids are "recruited" by D1 schools, but only the ones that are "good enough", get offers. I believe they have to accept the offer to be good enough because i think that is part of the criteria of being good enough. They need to believe in themselves and not be so afraid of competition.

 

I know two seniors on the same team that had D1 offers. They recieved offers from the Airforce Acadamy and one also had an offer by Army .Both had injuries , one his junior year and the other his senior year. I believe their injuries had a major impact on which major D1 schools would offer them. Believe me these players are not afraid of anything , including competition. Heck , they have been competing in football since grade school. As far as not accepting the D1 offers , hopefully one or both of these great athletes will end up on a major D1 college campus down the road , and if they don't , we are extremely proud of them regardless. As per your bolded statement , thats bologny

I would also add , these players are playing where they wantedto go to college and not where football took them. D1 shools are great for football ,but you can get a great education from small colleges also.

I get it, since you weren't good enough to go D1 and were offered "some" money to play at some lower level school that anyone that had the chance to go D1 and choose to go to a lower level is a loser! By the way, nice collection of ring's. Anyone with that many state ring's should have gone D1!

 

Maybe they are not his rings. He could have borrowed them from his friends or maybe he bought them from the pawn shop , times are rough! :lol:

I know two seniors on the same team that had D1 offers. They recieved offers from the Airforce Acadamy and one also had an offer by Army .Both had injuries , one his junior year and the other his senior year. I believe their injuries had a major impact on which major D1 schools would offer them. Believe me these players are not afraid of anything , including competition. Heck , they have been competing in football since grade school. As far as not accepting the D1 offers , hopefully one or both of these great athletes will end up on a major D1 college campus down the road , and if they don't , we are extremely proud of them regardless. As per your bolded statement , thats bologny

 

Hoosierbirdfan,

You are correct and for someone to make a statement that a player picks another school or level of Division due to being afraid is ludicrous!!! Education does play a part for some of the athletes!!!

I know two seniors on the same team that had D1 offers. They recieved offers from the Airforce Acadamy and one also had an offer by Army .Both had injuries , one his junior year and the other his senior year. I believe their injuries had a major impact on which major D1 schools would offer them. Believe me these players are not afraid of anything , including competition. Heck , they have been competing in football since grade school. As far as not accepting the D1 offers , hopefully one or both of these great athletes will end up on a major D1 college campus down the road , and if they don't , we are extremely proud of them regardless. As per your bolded statement , thats bologny

 

I agree that education is important, however in this thread I am talking about football only. No other outside influences or anything. Stricktly from an athletic standpoint.

 

I am not saying these players are losers or anything, I just wish they had the confidence in themselves to go play D1 football. And they may eventually do that.

 

Through this thread and talking about what "good enough" is according to the first post, I am on the fence. The players are obviously "good enough" to play D1 football, I guess in my opinion they are selling themselves short.

 

This is not a knock on anyone or any personal attack, I just believe D1 is the ultimate of college football, and thats when you know you made it. look at it this way, there are professional baseball players that play in the minors, but when people think of professional baseball players, it's the players in the majors.

I get it, since you weren't good enough to go D1 and were offered "some" money to play at some lower level school that anyone that had the chance to go D1 and choose to go to a lower level is a loser! By the way, nice collection of ring's. Anyone with that many state ring's should have gone D1!

 

Those are 7 of Dale's 8 rings.