What we're talking about in this thread are the questions posed by RAM "When is getting a college scholarship to play football good enough? When is being in the top tier of a sport good enough? When is just being "Good" good enough? "

 

Perhaps you need clarification that with every comment I am referring to players that get college scholarships be it at D1-A, D1-AA, D3, NAIA, etc. because that is what I am talking about and what the thread is about. Not just the best but "good enough."

 

Kids who work hard but only manage a scholarship less than D1-A scholarship are good enough in my book. Some choose to go less than D1-A. If my son has a choice between Yale and WKU, as dog daze poses, you better believe he'll go to Yale.

 

This is a football website, not an academic site. There is not a thread for which school kids choose to attend because of academics. I am not talking about in life, I am talking about football. I honestly don't care about some genius that goes to Yale. A player that is not good enough to go division-1 is not good enough to go division-1. Whereas a player good enough to go division 1 is good enough to play at any other level if he chooses. Someone could work harder than anyone and be absolutly horrible at playing football. Working hard only gets you so far. I am not a person to give out trophys to everyone. I am not saying it is bad to be smart or bad to be good at other things, I am just saying that that this is a football website and I come here to talk about football.

Good Lord folks, when are we going to be able to look at a great high school athlete and say, "that is a great football player" without having to hear about why he is not the best player to ever play the game. It seems like every time a person tells about a great player, he is hammered for not running a 4.2 40, or not benching 850 pounds, or not be tall enough. Very few times does a player have all the attributes of an athlete, all are lacking somewhere. I just love hearing about great players, not the dressing down.

This is a football website, not an academic site. There is not a thread for which school kids choose to attend because of academics. I am not talking about in life, I am talking about football. I honestly don't care about some genius that goes to Yale. A player that is not good enough to go division-1 is not good enough to go division-1. Whereas a player good enough to go division 1 is good enough to play at any other level if he chooses. Someone could work harder than anyone and be absolutly horrible at playing football. Working hard only gets you so far. I am not a person to give out trophys to everyone. I am not saying it is bad to be smart or bad to be good at other things, I am just saying that that this is a football website and I come here to talk about football.

 

Your just saying no one can disagree with you. Ram started this discussion but I guess think you can come in and hijack it and tell everyone what they're supposed to be talking about. Ram asked for our opinions about what is good enough. I gave mine which happens to be different than yours.

 

Ram said in the beginning, "Used to, people would only criticize for not getting any attention, then they started criticizing for not getting D1 attention, now they criticize for getting "Large D1" attention. Where does it end? Sometimes I think we are the players' worst enemies."

Edited June 18, 201016 yr by spindoc

Folks, we are gonna keep this discussion above board. Some of you need to review rule #2. This will be the only warning in this thread. Take the personal junk to the pm's. This is a great topic, let's keep it civil or some of you will be on the outside looking in.

Good Lord folks, when are we going to be able to look at a great high school athlete and say, "that is a great football player" without having to hear about why he is not the best player to ever play the game. It seems like every time a person tells about a great player, he is hammered for not running a 4.2 40, or not benching 850 pounds, or not be tall enough. Very few times does a player have all the attributes of an athlete, all are lacking somewhere. I just love hearing about great players, not the dressing down.

Personally, I think that the majority of posters on this site are truly interested in promoting and discussing players. Most are interested in building up student-athletes, not dressing them down. However, and this is only my opinion, I think that with every site of this sort, there are parents, and even athletes themselves (considering that you only need be 16 to sign up) that would rather make this a spitting contest and turn to degrade players instead of arguing or promoting their merits. So far, this has been one of my favorite threads I've had the pleasure of reading. Yet, I can't imagine it will be long before we have plenty of discussion on how some aren't "good enough". Seems football season brings that out more than any other.

Personally, I think that the majority of posters on this site are truly interested in promoting and discussing players. Most are interested in building up student-athletes, not dressing them down. However, and this is only my opinion, I think that with every site of this sort, there are parents, and even athletes themselves (considering that you only need be 16 to sign up) that would rather make this a spitting contest and turn to degrade players instead of arguing or promoting their merits. So far, this has been one of my favorite threads I've had the pleasure of reading. Yet, I can't imagine it will be long before we have plenty of discussion on how some aren't "good enough". Seems football season brings that out more than any other.

 

I agree, when I talk about being a division 1 football player, it is promotion of division 1 because it is the highest level of play. I am not trying to make people that have a personal connection to someone feel like "their kid" isn't as good as he actually is. I am just simply saying that division 1 is the highest and best football. It is hard to argue that if there is a division 1 football player, he is not good enough at football. I am not saying that to be good enough you need a full ride to USC or Florida, I am just saying that division 1 is good enough in the context of the origonal question.

Good Post,Good Thread.

I have enjoyed reading all the thoughts in this thread, some real good insightful posts. But, my intention was to ask when are we, as fans, satisfied with young adults being good. It seems that when a player is touted as being good, they are often chastised for not being a D1 recruit, or at least not excepting a D1 offer. My real question was: when are we, as fans, happy with the ability of a player?

I have enjoyed reading all the thoughts in this thread, some real good insightful posts. But, my intention was to ask when are we, as fans, satisfied with young adults being good. It seems that when a player is touted as being good, they are often chastised for not being a D1 recruit, or at least not excepting a D1 offer. My real question was: when are we, as fans, happy with the ability of a player?

 

And the answer runs the gamut. Some aren't happy unless the Player is a major D-1 recruit. Others are happy when the player reaches his potential, whatever that may be.

Humility precedes honor.