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Yes, but I expect that they be good stewards of the donation.

 

I am not certain if you are trying to say that paying for school is a donation to a charity, because I am not saying that. I am saying it is an investment that you expect to be "repaid" in various ways down the road-by earning more money, etc.

 

I was talking about the sacrifice you make when you make the donation. Seems you are willing to make a sacrifice without expecting anything in return, correct? So, why can a parent not choose to make a sacrifice by choosing to send their child to a private school, and not expect anything in return?

I've paid too, but a sacrifice is only made for a reward in the long run. Otherwise it is martyrdom. You "sacrificed" paying money now to hopefully provide a better future for your children. Perhaps a better word would be investment.

 

It is a choice.

Great investment ,one is an Attorney , one is a Registered Nurse , one is still in school . The two kids that are professionals are giving back to their school ,one as an adviser one as a coach .

They all could have gone to public school ( had a choice of 3 in our area ) but wouldn't have gotten the faith based Catholic education that they received at NCC . That was the deciding factor in sending them to NCC . Not the sports program , and we are not the exceptions ,we are the rule .

I was talking about the sacrifice you make when you make the donation. Seems you are willing to make a sacrifice without expecting anything in return, correct? So, why can a parent not choose to make a sacrifice by choosing to send their child to a private school, and not expect anything in return?

 

See below.:ylsuper::laugh: He is spot on.

 

From some of your other posts on a different thread, it seemed as if you might be expecting something more on the hardwood at your school.

 

Great investment ,one is an Attorney , one is a Registered Nurse , one is still in school . The two kids that are professionals are giving back to their school ,one as an adviser one as a coach .

They all could have gone to public school ( had a choice of 3 in our area ) but wouldn't have gotten the faith based Catholic education that they received at NCC . That was the deciding factor in sending them to NCC . Not the sports program , and we are not the exceptions ,we are the rule .

See below.:ylsuper::laugh: He is spot on.

 

From some of your other posts on a different thread, it seemed as if you might be expecting something more on the hardwood at your school.

 

I saw his post and I do not disagree from what he is saying - it worked out very well for his kids. I disagree with calling it an investment however. It is no more an investment than sending your kids to a public school. With both, you are investing in your child's future. You do this with everything you do in life, with all choices you make. So why single this one choice out? Are you saying it is not possible for a child who attends public schools their entire life to not be as successful, which it sounds like you are now saying, well then I do not know what to say. Neither I nor my kids have gone to public schools, but I do know a lot of very successful people who have.

 

And what does my thoughts on a certain basketball team/program have to do with any of this? All i was trying to point out is that it seems like you have a very different opinion of sacrifice than most.

I saw his post and I do not disagree from what he is saying - it worked out very well for his kids. I disagree with calling it an investment however. It is no more an investment than sending your kids to a public school. With both, you are investing in your child's future. You do this with everything you do in life, with all choices you make. So why single this one choice out? Are you saying it is not possible for a child who attends public schools their entire life to not be as successful, which it sounds like you are now saying, well then I do not know what to say. Neither I nor my kids have gone to public schools, but I do know a lot of very successful people who have.

 

And what does my thoughts on a certain basketball team/program have to do with any of this? All i was trying to point out is that it seems like you have a very different opinion of sacrifice than most.

 

He called it an investment, and I agree. Kids at private and public schools can do well. Faith can be a legit reason to send a child to private school.

 

With regards to the other posts in another thread, I just like to make certain people are consistent, and I think many people think because they are paying for their childs tuition, then they can complain about coaching. Actually everybody seems to have a gripe about a coach or two.

 

I probably do have a different version of sacrifice, as I think that word is simply improperly used. I do admire folks that send their kids to private school, but I believe if they are being honest, like KyTmcncc, then it is an investement, and one by the way that I have made myself.

He called it an investment, and I agree. Kids at private and public schools can do well. Faith can be a legit reason to send a child to private school.

 

With regards to the other posts in another thread, I just like to make certain people are consistent, and I think many people think because they are paying for their childs tuition, then they can complain about coaching. Actually everybody seems to have a gripe about a coach or two.

 

I probably do have a different version of sacrifice, as I think that word is simply improperly used. I do admire folks that send their kids to private school, but I believe if they are being honest, like KyTmcncc, then it is an investement, and one by the way that I have made myself.

 

Ok - I understand.

I already said Dale is the best coach in Kentucky, but he has zero state championships from coaching in Ohio-from 1984 to 1990 at Withrow, and 1991 to 1993 while the head coach at Sycamore. I don't think Dale needs defending, but his Ohio coaching record in 10 years produced no crowns. For the record both Ohio schools are public institutions, and most years I would say Ohio football is better than Kentucky football.

 

I'm aware that you said Dale is the best coach in Ky. I agree with you. You are also correct in stating that Dale didn't win any crowns in Ohio, which as you know are much, much more difficult to win in Ohio than they are in Ky because of the quality of ball played in Ohio. He did, nonetheless, have some pretty successful years while coaching at Withrow (some of which, while playing against much better Ohio competition, were better than a lot of Ky coaches achieved against weaker competition). Surely, Withrow wouldn't be considered one of those programs with all the advantages that schools like Highlands have. Mueller might not have won a crown there, but in a short period of time, he brought Withrow much further along than many coaches could have. I'd call that pretty successful. Glad to see Doc Gamble back there picking up where Mueller left the program. They went 8-2 this year with their only two losses being to Winton Woods and Highlands, both of which won state championships. Expect bigger and better things out of Withrow in the future.

I probably do have a different version of sacrifice, as I think that word is simply improperly used. I do admire folks that send their kids to private school, but I believe if they are being honest, like KyTmcncc, then it is an investement, and one by the way that I have made myself.

 

 

sac·ri·fice

/ˈsækrəˌfaɪs/

–noun

1. the offering of animal, plant, or human life or of some material possession to a deity, as in propitiation or homage.

2. the person, animal, or thing so offered.

3. the surrender or destruction of something prized or desirable for the sake of something considered as having a higher or more pressing claim.

4. the thing so surrendered or devoted.

 

Parents surrender their hard-earned money for their children's prized education because they see their children's education as having a higher claim than the money they spend on it.

 

It is a sacrifice and an investment.

I'm aware that you said Dale is the best coach in Ky. I agree with you. You are also correct in stating that Dale didn't win any crowns in Ohio, which as you know are much, much more difficult to win in Ohio than they are in Ky because of the quality of ball played in Ohio. He did, nonetheless, have some pretty successful years while coaching at Withrow (some of which, while playing against much better Ohio competition, were better than a lot of Ky coaches achieved against weaker competition). Surely, Withrow wouldn't be considered one of those programs with all the advantages that schools like Highlands have. Mueller might not have won a crown there, but in a short period of time, he brought Withrow much further along than many coaches could have. I'd call that pretty successful. Glad to see Doc Gamble back there picking up where Mueller left the program. They went 8-2 this year with their only two losses being to Winton Woods and Highlands, both of which won state championships. Expect bigger and better things out of Withrow in the future.

 

As much as I hate having to compliment Dale Mueller (), I absolutely agree with LN that Mueller was a very successful coach at Withrow. That can't be denied just because he didn't win any "crowns".

 

History, are we to assume from your statements that a coach is only a success if his team wins a title?

sac·ri·fice

/ˈsækrəˌfaɪs/

–noun

1. the offering of animal, plant, or human life or of some material possession to a deity, as in propitiation or homage.

2. the person, animal, or thing so offered.

3. the surrender or destruction of something prized or desirable for the sake of something considered as having a higher or more pressing claim.

4. the thing so surrendered or devoted.

 

Parents surrender their hard-earned money for their children's prized education because they see their children's education as having a higher claim than the money they spend on it.

 

It is a sacrifice and an investment.

 

Fair enough!

As much as I hate having to compliment Dale Mueller (), I absolutely agree with LN that Mueller was a very successful coach at Withrow. That can't be denied just because he didn't win any "crowns".

 

History, are we to assume from your statements that a coach is only a success if his team wins a title?

 

No, but in ten years in Ohio, he didn't win any.The point being that while he had things going in the right direction, he never won the biggest prize in the Buckeye state. I am certain that was his goal. I am just staying with the theme of the thread and that is public/private debate.

 

It is just a fact that all of the right pieces have to be together to win a state championship-coaching, parental support, great, teachable kids, and more often than not a couple of good kids from what most people would consider "out of district". In Northern Kentucky, where that happens often is Highlands, CCH (yes-I know there are no boundries-an obvious, undeniable advantage), and Beechwood.

sac·ri·fice

/ˈsækrəˌfaɪs/

–noun

3. the surrender or destruction of something prized or desirable for the sake of something considered as having a higher or more pressing claim.

 

 

Parents surrender their hard-earned money for their children's prized education because they see their children's education as having a higher claim than the money they spend on it.

 

It is a sacrifice and an investment.

One other point . As Catholics my wife and I felt that when the time came to enroll our children in High School It was our OBLIGATION to send them to a Catholic School . There was Never , Never any consideration to send them to a Public High school

One other point . As Catholics my wife and I felt that when the time came to enroll our children in High School It was our OBLIGATION to send them to a Catholic School . There was Never , Never any consideration to send them to a Public High school

 

I would presume by your name that that was true for all of your children for college too?

Why does KY need 6 classes for football....3.4M people in the state? Your comparing our state vs. FL, CA, PA. The KHSAA and the Board of Control do what they want based on what is convenient for them and the schools involved.

 

Where privates and how privates get kids to come to their school is completely different. Lexington Catholic, according to the archidiocese of Lexington, can accept students from numerous counties (something like 30 or more counties). That is absurd. Privates in Louisville, the same thing. For the purpose of athletic competition, this is not the same as public schools. Period. No restrictions, no policy to follow, nothing. Just go. Doesn't matter how or why.

 

That's like the SEC telling Kentucky they can only recruit in Kentucky, but they still have to play all the other SEC schools who are allowed to recruit the entire country. Why don't they do that? Answer. Equal playing field

 

Why do all Division 1 schools have a limit of 85 scholarships in football? Why do they have scholarship limits in all sports? Answer. Equality. For the purpose of ATHLETICS, everyone is operating under the same policy.

 

Why do professional sports have salary caps? Answer. Equality. Equal playing field. ATHLETIC equality. Everyone operating under the same regulations.

 

Why do 39 of our 50 states have complete or partial seperation of their public and private schools? Do I need to give you the answer?

 

Does anyone seriously think the public and private schools in Kentucky are the same animal?

That is interesting & something I have never heard before. Which schools have a reciprocal agreement?

 

I've never heard of this, but my best guess would be NCC & Brossart.

Sorry, I'm joining the discussion late, but had to drag this over here from the first page.

 

Contrary to the popular belief in some sectors,there is NO reciprocal argeement between NCC and Brossart. Both have defined feeder grade schools. At present on the NCC website they are seeking 8th Graders to play on their freshmen baseball team. They spell out very clearly that any candidates must be from their district grade schools, and then spell out exactly which grade schools those are.