Let's compare the Campbell County Basketball Program to the Bishop Brossart Basketball Program. If you look at the last 12 years, BB is 239-122 compared to CC who is at 163-169. Head to head, BB has 10 wins and CC has 11 wins. 5 out of the last 12 years were losing seasons at CC while BB has had no losing seasons. Be prepared for similar results for the next 12 years and this is why...

 

First, Mike Code is very involved in the Bishop Brossart Basketball Program from kids at a young age all the way up through high school. He is doing some of the same things that made Dan Sullivan successful at CC. He is working with the feeder schools to develop a solid program and he is surrounding himself with the right people to make this happen. He will continue to get results. Scott Code does not support the Campbell County Youth Basketball League. If he did, he would have a system in place that focuses on the fundamentals of the game at an earlier age so that once these boys are in middle school, they understand how to dribble, shoot, pass and play defense. You cannot do this with dads who are only coaching because they want to make sure their son is playing the position he wants to play. Grow the program, get involved. It's that easy...

 

I completely agree with the notion that championships are not won in grades 11 and 12. In my opinion they are won with the work that is done in grades 4-6. Plant good seeds and nuture them and you will have a great product when it's time to harvest. From my limited understanding, CC has a recreational program that doesn't focus much on the fundamentals and just lets kids play. Many of the Catholic schools are playing each other at early ages and really teaching the kids how to play the right way.

I completely agree with the notion that championships are not won in grades 11 and 12. In my opinion they are won with the work that is done in grades 4-6. Plant good seeds and nuture them and you will have a great product when it's time to harvest. From my limited understanding, CC has a recreational program that doesn't focus much on the fundamentals and just lets kids play. Many of the Catholic schools are playing each other at early ages and really teaching the kids how to play the right way.

 

I Can't disagree with this statement or CP3's:thumb:

Let's compare the Campbell County Basketball Program to the Bishop Brossart Basketball Program. If you look at the last 12 years, BB is 239-122 compared to CC who is at 163-169. Head to head, BB has 10 wins and CC has 11 wins. 5 out of the last 12 years were losing seasons at CC while BB has had no losing seasons. Be prepared for similar results for the next 12 years and this is why...

 

First, Mike Code is very involved in the Bishop Brossart Basketball Program from kids at a young age all the way up through high school. He is doing some of the same things that made Dan Sullivan successful at CC. He is working with the feeder schools to develop a solid program and he is surrounding himself with the right people to make this happen. He will continue to get results. Scott Code does not support the Campbell County Youth Basketball League. If he did, he would have a system in place that focuses on the fundamentals of the game at an earlier age so that once these boys are in middle school, they understand how to dribble, shoot, pass and play defense. You cannot do this with dads who are only coaching because they want to make sure their son is playing the position he wants to play. Grow the program, get involved. It's that easy...

 

Good points :thumb:

 

This is something that we are hoping Mike Flynn does at Highlands.

Youth programs are by far the key to developing your Varsity talent. I credit theyouth program (or lack thereof) at Holy Cross with most of their present situation. The only difference is that there, a buch of kids that were playing basketball until the start of school are now playing football in tha fall. For small schools it is a major problem. Brossart has come thru remarkably in their athletic expansion, maintaining both soccer and basketball. As you've mentioned, the key is the youth program. Kids that are taught fundamentals and exposed to competition repeatedly fare better than others. I don't know why coaches in general don't understand this.

Let's compare the Campbell County Basketball Program to the Bishop Brossart Basketball Program. If you look at the last 12 years, BB is 239-122 compared to CC who is at 163-169. Head to head, BB has 10 wins and CC has 11 wins. 5 out of the last 12 years were losing seasons at CC while BB has had no losing seasons. Be prepared for similar results for the next 12 years and this is why...

 

First, Mike Code is very involved in the Bishop Brossart Basketball Program from kids at a young age all the way up through high school. He is doing some of the same things that made Dan Sullivan successful at CC. He is working with the feeder schools to develop a solid program and he is surrounding himself with the right people to make this happen. He will continue to get results. Scott Code does not support the Campbell County Youth Basketball League. If he did, he would have a system in place that focuses on the fundamentals of the game at an earlier age so that once these boys are in middle school, they understand how to dribble, shoot, pass and play defense. You cannot do this with dads who are only coaching because they want to make sure their son is playing the position he wants to play. Grow the program, get involved. It's that easy...

 

C3P, I think you made some very good points but I need to add one more. Not just in basketball but in all high school sports in the public schools you have a certain rule that can hold some programs back. It is the rule of being employed by the school district. They require you to have so many hours of college credits to get a head coaching job in the public schools. So lets say you are an above average coach who lands a job as Head basketball coach at "School A". They want you to teach Math on the freshman level. This is a full days work load and you have to get your varsity prepared for a couple of games a week. Now the question is....when is there time to over see a youth league? This also keeps public schools from hiring better quality coaches sometimes because they may not want to work for that school district or they may have a better paying job outside the school system. Take away the credit hours rule and do not insist on the coach working for the school district and you may have some better coaches out there. Hard to dedicate time when your time is limited. Maybe someone can tell me if there are any rules like this setup for the Catholic/Private Schools?

C3P, I think you made some very good points but I need to add one more. Not just in basketball but in all high school sports in the public schools you have a certain rule that can hold some programs back. It is the rule of being employed by the school district. They require you to have so many hours of college credits to get a head coaching job in the public schools. So lets say you are an above average coach who lands a job as Head basketball coach at "School A". They want you to teach Math on the freshman level. This is a full days work load and you have to get your varsity prepared for a couple of games a week. Now the question is....when is there time to over see a youth league? This also keeps public schools from hiring better quality coaches sometimes because they may not want to work for that school district or they may have a better paying job outside the school system. Take away the credit hours rule and do not insist on the coach working for the school district and you may have some better coaches out there. Hard to dedicate time when your time is limited. Maybe someone can tell me if there are any rules like this setup for the Catholic/Private Schools?

 

Our coaches don't oversee youth leagues.

Other interested volunteers assume those roles. Some of our leagues, such as the former NCC and KofC leagues have histories back to the 60's and beyond. Those two leagues merged in 1986 to form the Campbell County Parochial League. Our coaches have very little input into the operation of that league, but are fortunate to have good grade school coaches teaching solid fundamental basketball.

I don't see where the Catholics and Publics need to tbe that far apart in this respect.

Our coaches don't oversee youth leagues.

Other interested volunteers assume those roles. Some of our leagues, such as the former NCC and KofC leagues have histories back to the 60's and beyond. Those two leagues merged in 1986 to form the Campbell County Parochial League. Our coaches have very little input into the operation of that league, but are fortunate to have good grade school coaches teaching solid fundamental basketball.I don't see where the Catholics and Publics need to tbe that far apart in this respect.

 

For the record, these coaches are volunteers and are not paid.

Let's compare the Campbell County Basketball Program to the Bishop Brossart Basketball Program. If you look at the last 12 years, BB is 239-122 compared to CC who is at 163-169. Head to head, BB has 10 wins and CC has 11 wins. 5 out of the last 12 years were losing seasons at CC while BB has had no losing seasons. Be prepared for similar results for the next 12 years and this is why...

 

First, Mike Code is very involved in the Bishop Brossart Basketball Program from kids at a young age all the way up through high school. He is doing some of the same things that made Dan Sullivan successful at CC. He is working with the feeder schools to develop a solid program and he is surrounding himself with the right people to make this happen. He will continue to get results. Scott Code does not support the Campbell County Youth Basketball League. If he did, he would have a system in place that focuses on the fundamentals of the game at an earlier age so that once these boys are in middle school, they understand how to dribble, shoot, pass and play defense. You cannot do this with dads who are only coaching because they want to make sure their son is playing the position he wants to play. Grow the program, get involved. It's that easy...

 

Agree with this post 100% ! If you want a successful high school program you need to have kids coming into the middle school program that at least know fundamentals. At the Camel Fall Classic at CCMS last month, you could watch the Mason Co 6th grade team and they were fundamentally sound and were running Mason Co offenses. Our kids come into the 6th grade and can not dribble with their left hand or know how to do a proper lay-up. When this school wants to take this program to the next level, there needs to me a mind set change in the administration. Now that Code has been at CCHS for three years maybe he resurrect the feeder program that was so successful at Campbell Co, one can only hope.

Agree with this post 100% ! If you want a successful high school program you need to have kids coming into the middle school program that at least know fundamentals. At the Camel Fall Classic at CCMS last month, you could watch the Mason Co 6th grade team and they were fundamentally sound and were running Mason Co offenses. Our kids come into the 6th grade and can not dribble with their left hand or know how to do a proper lay-up. When this school wants to take this program to the next level, there needs to me a mind set change in the administration. Now that Code has been at CCHS for three years maybe he resurrect the feeder program that was so successful at Campbell Co, one can only hope.

 

I don't disagree but feel the need to point out that CC 6th beat the Mason County team in the Camel Classic.

Disagree! Code first has definately toughened the schedule from Reitz's "All A" version, which will only make CC better in the long run. Can't answer why CC seems to have a "coaching merry-go-round" in several sports, but that can't help their program's progress.

 

The region has run through Mason & Clark for the last several years, as they've had outstanding overall talent with a several D-1 kids included. PC, Scott and Brossart have had much of their best recent talent come along in the same timeframe, so the road to Rupp (or even out of the district) has been challenging recently to say the very least?? I thought CC's best recent chance was the 2006 "Dream Team", but in the end they didn't get it done (style of play might have had something to do with that)?

 

Give Code a chance--Let him get some kids that buy into playing disciplined basketball, and the results will follow. You don't have to travel very far to find Coach Code's picture on a Championship banner; or just ask to see his ring!! :thumb:

 

Would that be a class "A" title because thats an accomplishment and then some. There is a reason rivals.com doesn't recognize that tournament.

I don't disagree but feel the need to point out that CC 6th beat the Mason County team in the Camel Classic.

 

Why do you think they were able to beat the Mason Co. team?? Is it because a few parents with kids on that team decided to step out of the box when they were in 3rd and 4th grade?:confused::confused:

Agree with this post 100% ! If you want a successful high school program you need to have kids coming into the middle school program that at least know fundamentals. At the Camel Fall Classic at CCMS last month, you could watch the Mason Co 6th grade team and they were fundamentally sound and were running Mason Co offenses. Our kids come into the 6th grade and can not dribble with their left hand or know how to do a proper lay-up. When this school wants to take this program to the next level, there needs to me a mind set change in the administration. Now that Code has been at CCHS for three years maybe he resurrect the feeder program that was so successful at Campbell Co, one can only hope.

 

Surely you don't mean the feeder program when Sullivan was there. If it was so great why did he only take one team to the tourney. Also I understand that there may have been other issues that led to its end. I agreee that a feeder program is a necessity, and I heard that Coach Code was working with the middle school program this year. If that is true, maybe things will change. I just hope we see a change in his style of coaching.

Agree with the many who've said on here that successful HS programs begin at the grade/middle school levels & teaching the fundamentals. I'd also argue that many of the more solid players to come through CC's program the last several years were products of the CC parochial system's teachings. Maybe they should look to emulate those programs??

Our coaches don't oversee youth leagues.

Other interested volunteers assume those roles. Some of our leagues, such as the former NCC and KofC leagues have histories back to the 60's and beyond. Those two leagues merged in 1986 to form the Campbell County Parochial League. Our coaches have very little input into the operation of that league, but are fortunate to have good grade school coaches teaching solid fundamental basketball.

I don't see where the Catholics and Publics need to tbe that far apart in this respect.

 

I honestly do not believe that Coach Code has time to run a CC Junior Basketball League nor does he have time to manage the CC Middle School Program. My suggestion is that he get involved. Show up at a Middle School game. Take a Saturday and visit one of the five elementary feeder schools during the season while the games are going on. Show interest in the CC basketball program. In the meantime, I would also surround myself with coaches who have an interest in seeing the CC basketball program succeed. This is where coaches at the Parochial Schools have been successful.

 

I would also suggest that the money used to pay coaches below the Freshman level be put to use in developing CC AAU Teams. Stop paying grade school coaches!!! Look for coaches that are interested enough in the game and the CC program to run a team. Most kids that have the ability to play at the Middle School level did not get the experience or coaching through the CCJBL. They were involved in AAU and a dad/coach had to organize this on his own. Some teams play 30-40 games a season and guess where the money comes from; the parents and the coach who dedicates his time to finding a practice gym, preparing for practices, going to coaches meetings, signing up his team through the AAU system, etc.. Those are the guys you want coaching in the CC system.

I don't know about running the program, but I think a head coach in any high school sport has to devote some of their time to the feeder program and AAU. Just look at this years Freshman class in the 9th and 10th Region. How many of the freshman that are playing up, were involved in AAU basketball.