I honestly do not believe that Coach Code has time to run a CC Junior Basketball League nor does he have time to manage the CC Middle School Program. My suggestion is that he get involved. Show up at a Middle School game. Take a Saturday and visit one of the five elementary feeder schools during the season while the games are going on. Show interest in the CC basketball program. In the meantime, I would also surround myself with coaches who have an interest in seeing the CC basketball program succeed. This is where coaches at the Parochial Schools have been successful.

 

I would also suggest that the money used to pay coaches below the Freshman level be put to use in developing CC AAU Teams. Stop paying grade school coaches!!! Look for coaches that are interested enough in the game and the CC program to run a team. Most kids that have the ability to play at the Middle School level did not get the experience or coaching through the CCJBL. They were involved in AAU and a dad/coach had to organize this on his own. Some teams play 30-40 games a season and guess where the money comes from; the parents and the coach who dedicates his time to finding a practice gym, preparing for practices, going to coaches meetings, signing up his team through the AAU system, etc.. Those are the guys you want coaching in the CC system.

 

You don't like him very much do you.

Look at your message, you mention how he does not have the time to run a league. Then you write a list of about six different projects he should be doing.

I don't know about running the program, but I think a head coach in any high school sport has to devote some of their time to the feeder program and AAU. Just look at this years Freshman class in the 9th and 10th Region. How many of the freshman that are playing up, were involved in AAU basketball.

It depends on the intent of the AAU team/program.

There are some well-intended, good ones that are well-coached, and there are some not-so-good ones where you do nothing more than perfect your bad habits.

 

Sullivan's AAU regime operated on a basket premise. He gathered up as many young players as possible, dressed them and their fathers up in Purple and Gold warm-ups, fed them the gospel of creating a dynasty, and then hoped that a handful of them panned out. I'm not convinced that his intentions were to create fundamentally sound Camels. It was more about getting them to drink the Camel kool-aid, making a commitment to his program, and making $$$.

 

Ask some of his former AAU players that took the bait how the "dynasties" worked out.

You don't like him very much do you.

Look at your message, you mention how he does not have the time to run a league. Then you write a list of about six different projects he should be doing.

 

This is not personal. All I am suggesting is more involvement at the younger age level. And BTW, I didn't give him six things to do...just asked that he visit one of the elementary schools during the season. Although he might be able to hit all five schools on a Saturday.

 

In regards to AAU programs, Mustang, I totally agree. Fundamentals need to start at a very early age. The magic age for getting involved in AAU basketball depends on the player. You can certainly start too early. I have witnessed 2nd grade kids with the fundamental skills of a high school player. That is why I believe you surround yourself with good coaches who can make decisions in regards to what kids are fundamentally ready for AAU basketball.

 

Lastly, I am not saying that Sullivan's program was perfect but I can tell you this...people are still talking about him...more good than bad. I have no idea what he did to lose his coaching job at CC. All I can say is that he was involved. If that means, in regards to Coach Code, that I 'don't like him very much', then I apologize...that is not my intent.

It depends on the intent of the AAU team/program.

There are some well-intended, good ones that are well-coached, and there are some not-so-good ones where you do nothing more than perfect your bad habits.

 

Sullivan's AAU regime operated on a basket premise. He gathered up as many young players as possible, dressed them and their fathers up in Purple and Gold warm-ups, fed them the gospel of creating a dynasty, and then hoped that a handful of them panned out. I'm not convinced that his intentions were to create fundamentally sound Camels. It was more about getting them to drink the Camel kool-aid, making a commitment to his program, and making $$$.

 

Ask some of his former AAU players that took the bait how the "dynasties" worked out.

 

Mustang, my son played in the Sullivan regime at a very young age. He had an excellent coach who taught my son outstanding fundamentals. He was arguably the best coach he ever had. Under the guidance of coach Sullivan they were to play man to man regardless of who they played in order to teach them how to play proper man defense (zone could be taught to them later). They lost a few games playing in a tough Cincy league do to playing against some zones, but they learned how to play the game. At the time my son knew he would not drink the purple kool aid and some Camel faithful gave me grief about it. Interesting fact, of the 8 kids that played on this team 7 played HS ball at least at the freshman level. 3 went to CC, 3 went to BB and one went to NCC. They also had a B team at that time, which I believe had an additional 4 boys that went on to play HS ball for CC.

It depends on the intent of the AAU team/program.

There are some well-intended, good ones that are well-coached, and there are some not-so-good ones where you do nothing more than perfect your bad habits.

 

Sullivan's AAU regime operated on a basket premise. He gathered up as many young players as possible, dressed them and their fathers up in Purple and Gold warm-ups, fed them the gospel of creating a dynasty, and then hoped that a handful of them panned out. I'm not convinced that his intentions were to create fundamentally sound Camels. It was more about getting them to drink the Camel kool-aid, making a commitment to his program, and making $$$.

 

Ask some of his former AAU players that took the bait how the "dynasties" worked out.

 

I respect your opinion however I totally disagree. I had no Gold warm-up, never was given anything to drink and my son was taught how to play basketball. As far as how it worked out I guess you would have to ask my son. I know I enjoyed watching him play at Rupp in the State tourny for the Camels.

 

This thread is about what the Camels need to do, not what happen in the past. I agree that a quality youth feeder program is needed for success. I have nothing but the greatest respect for Coach Code. He spends countless hours for the good the of Camel program. Given time he will have the Camels back on top. Right now there are other teams in the 10th that are much better then the Camels with potential D1 players on the roster.

Ryle in Doelmann's (sp?) senior year might have actually been the last--2004 maybe? SK has made it since their relo to the 8th I think?

SK has never won the 8th Region at this point. Ryle won the 9th Region in 2002, Doelman was a Junior.

Despite my loyalty to the Royals I'll take Brossart by 10 Friday night dudes:taz:

It depends on the intent of the AAU team/program.

There are some well-intended, good ones that are well-coached, and there are some not-so-good ones where you do nothing more than perfect your bad habits.

 

Sullivan's AAU regime operated on a basket premise. He gathered up as many young players as possible, dressed them and their fathers up in Purple and Gold warm-ups, fed them the gospel of creating a dynasty, and then hoped that a handful of them panned out. I'm not convinced that his intentions were to create fundamentally sound Camels. It was more about getting them to drink the Camel kool-aid, making a commitment to his program, and making $$$.

 

Ask some of his former AAU players that took the bait how the "dynasties" worked out.

 

Wow!!! I think we agree on this one, the intent is the key. Forget about shirts, warmups, and give the players the chance to develop fundamentals. That is what the program should be about, and that is what I see all across the state. It is needed in Campbell County.

I have only seen one dynasty, and I don't think anybody knows about making $$$.