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October 22, 2009 2:27PM

Senate Democrats Push Health Care, Climate Change on Moral Grounds

 

 

Paige Winfield

WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats framed their health care and climate bills with moral appeals and complained about Republican roadblocks during a roundtable discussion with reporters Wednesday.

 

"I want to get this off my chest," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who is continuing to head up work on a health care plan this week. "We're trying to move forward to do something to take care of Medicaid. There are dozens of things they've held us up on and they're doing that because they're betting on our failure."

 

Reid was joined by senators including Barbara Boxer (Calif.), Debbie Stabenow (Mich.), Ben Cardin (Maryland) and Bob Casey (Penn.).

 

Failure to reform health care will create a heavier burden for the faith community to care for the poor, sick and elderly, said Sen. Ben Cardin.

 

"The faith community is being called upon to provide more resources and do more things that should be in our system collectively," Cardin said.

 

If the religious community is ever going to come together in the area of public policy, it should be over the concerns of health care and climate change, said Barbara Boxer. She said she's been "thrilled" with support from the religious community for her climate change bill introduced with Sen. John Kerry earlier this month. The bill would require emissions be reduced to 97 percent of 2005 levels by 2012, 80 percent by 2010 and 17 percent by 2050.

 

Boxer, who is chairman of the Senate environment committee, said she also hopes for support from the religious community in December when she and other leaders meet in Copenhagen to discuss climate change.

 

She said churches, synagogues, and mosques should be the ones highlighting the moral responsibility to care for the health of people and the planet.

 

"Let's face it, God is very popular," she said. "So it's important people hear this in their daily lives."

That quote about God being popular these days cracks me up.

 

1) Funny how they are all for separation of church and state until it is something they believe they can use to further their purposes.

2) ABSOLUTELY the Christians should be concerned and pushing for help. BUT, it should be done by churches in the name of Jesus Christ. The government will do it in the name of the USA government and the love of Jesus will not be allowed to have any of the credit. Remember it is the government themselves who have said that the "J" word cannot be mentioned. We are told in Scriptures that people will know Jesus because of what we do. And since the government will not allow the "J" word to be said, well they have boxed themselves right into a corner.

3) Simply, they want us to give up what Christ calls us to do and let the government do it for us.

1) Funny how they are all for separation of church and state until it is something they believe they can use to further their purposes.

 

Excellent observation... :thumb:

 

This entire story is pathetic and disgusting.

Excellent observation... :thumb:

 

This entire story is pathetic and disgusting.

 

I have been taken to task on here for letting my Christian faith drive my decisions while voting in campaigns.

 

And now the Democrats are saying the exact reason I should be supporting them is my Christian faith.

 

Whatever.

The churches have been there for the less fortunate whether the government has been there to throw them the scraps from the table or not. This is an insult.

The churches have been there for the less fortunate whether the government has been there to throw them the scraps from the table or not. This is an insult.

 

Honestly, though, owsley churches have been but not enough.

 

They should be doing more so that people see the churches as the answers to the problems and not a handout from the government.

 

When the people think government is the placed to turn to have their problems solved, than we have not been doing our job as Jesus' church.

 

I think it started back in the 30's that the churches abdicated a lot of what we should have been doing to the government.

This whole administration reads like a really bad book!

Honestly, though, owsley churches have been but not enough.

 

They should be doing more so that people see the churches as the answers to the problems and not a handout from the government.

 

When the people think government is the placed to turn to have their problems solved, than we have not been doing our job as Jesus' church.

 

I think it started back in the 30's that the churches abdicated a lot of what we should have been doing to the government.

 

I agree,LBC. My point was simply that the churches have been there regardless of the economy. Whether it has been enough is another matter and I agree with you there. What the churches have been able to do has been through private donations,which tend to decrease in harder times,yet they still do what they can.

I agree,LBC. My point was simply that the churches have been there regardless of the economy. Whether it has been enough is another matter and I agree with you there. What the churches have been able to do has been through private donations,which tend to decrease in harder times,yet they still do what they can.

 

I agree.

 

Look at most of the hospitals and how many of them came from a Christian denomination?

I agree.

 

Look at most of the hospitals and how many of them came from a Christian denomination?

 

And the Salvation Army.

President Obama,in his campaign,said that one of the things he would like to see is young people doing 'x' number of hours of community service in their own communities,one of the points he had that I actually thought might work. But these organizations have been doing this for years and I find it sad that simply because they are affiliated with a religious organization,that they cannot receive help from the government. What does it matter who sends the money as long as these people are fed and clothed?

You and I both know the answer. It matters because these people may be exposed to a religious doctrine in the process,be it Christian,Muslim,Catholic,etc. Yet they are clothed and fed through the goodness of private donations when no one else was there to help them.

I didn't realize the churches could supply health insurance to anyone? That is amazing. Can either of you give me a website so I can compare the prices that I pay to the services that churches supply to regular folk??

I didn't realize the churches could supply health insurance to anyone? That is amazing. Can either of you give me a website so I can compare the prices that I pay to the services that churches supply to regular folk??

 

I have started threads here in P & R of churches who provide MEDICAL care for people in their community.

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October 22, 2009 2:27PM

Senate Democrats Push Health Care, Climate Change on Moral Grounds

 

 

Paige Winfield

WASHINGTON -- Senate Democrats framed their health care and climate bills with moral appeals and complained about Republican roadblocks during a roundtable discussion with reporters Wednesday.

 

"I want to get this off my chest," said Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, who is continuing to head up work on a health care plan this week. "We're trying to move forward to do something to take care of Medicaid. There are dozens of things they've held us up on and they're doing that because they're betting on our failure."

 

Reid was joined by senators including Barbara Boxer (Calif.), Debbie Stabenow (Mich.), Ben Cardin (Maryland) and Bob Casey (Penn.).

 

Failure to reform health care will create a heavier burden for the faith community to care for the poor, sick and elderly, said Sen. Ben Cardin.

 

"The faith community is being called upon to provide more resources and do more things that should be in our system collectively," Cardin said.

 

If the religious community is ever going to come together in the area of public policy, it should be over the concerns of health care and climate change, said Barbara Boxer. She said she's been "thrilled" with support from the religious community for her climate change bill introduced with Sen. John Kerry earlier this month. The bill would require emissions be reduced to 97 percent of 2005 levels by 2012, 80 percent by 2010 and 17 percent by 2050.

 

Boxer, who is chairman of the Senate environment committee, said she also hopes for support from the religious community in December when she and other leaders meet in Copenhagen to discuss climate change.

 

She said churches, synagogues, and mosques should be the ones highlighting the moral responsibility to care for the health of people and the planet.

 

"Let's face it, God is very popular," she said. "So it's important people hear this in their daily lives."

 

 

I thought liberals did not like legislating morality.

I didn't realize the churches could supply health insurance to anyone? That is amazing. Can either of you give me a website so I can compare the prices that I pay to the services that churches supply to regular folk??

 

Are you saying there are limitations on what the Jesus' you worship can do?