September 24, 200917 yr Maybe the tens of thousands of people who turned against them after they took a swipe at Dubya, as well as the many who sent them death threats? :idunno: By asking me "why?" are you by default suggesting that I might have some explanation on behalf of tens of thousands of people or even a few nuts? I'm not really sure I want to hear your answer to this one... :lol:
September 24, 200917 yr By asking me "why?" are you by default suggesting that I might have some explanation on behalf of tens of thousands of people or even a few nuts? I'm not really sure I want to hear your answer to this one... :lol: I was just providing the simple answer.
September 24, 200917 yr Maybe the tens of thousands of people who turned against them after they took a swipe at Dubya, as well as the many who sent them death threats? :idunno: That wasn't saying they couldn't, that was saying they shouldn't.
September 24, 200917 yr That wasn't saying they couldn't, that was saying they shouldn't. You're engaging in semantics, of course. "How dare they!?!?" was the common theme I noticed during the backlash.
September 24, 200917 yr Maybe the tens of thousands of people who turned against them after they took a swipe at Dubya, as well as the many who sent them death threats? :idunno: How many was that? I know there's always a few nutcases but I don't recall hearing that there was a lot of them.
September 24, 200917 yr The Chicks, Dylan, all of those folks have the right to criticize or say whatever they want to about the President or anyone else. And if we don't like it, we don't have to buy their stuff, and we have the right to say "How dare they. . ." If you don't like what Palin says, don't buy her stuff. Oh, wait . . .
September 24, 200917 yr Maybe the tens of thousands of people who turned against them after they took a swipe at Dubya, as well as the many who sent them death threats? :idunno: Those who sent them death threats are morons, plain and simple. I don't think anyone could argue with that. But they can say whatever they want. However, they must be prepared to face the consequences (eg. a large percentage of their audience who probably leaned more to the right than the left). They can say whatever they want. But those who opt to no longer buy their records or pay for their concerts have that right as well.
September 24, 200917 yr The Chicks, Dylan, all of those folks have the right to criticize or say whatever they want to about the President or anyone else. And if we don't like it, we don't have to buy their stuff, and we have the right to say "How dare they. . ." If you don't like what Palin says, don't buy her stuff. Oh, wait . . . Very good points and that is obviously why the Dixie Chicks’ music career dropped quicker then USC in the AP poll (sorry couldn’t resist). They offended the majority of their fan base; bad business decision on their part. Dylan fans are more liberal and more likely to support his left leaning opinions.
September 24, 200917 yr Very good points and that is obviously why the Dixie Chicks’ music career dropped quicker then USC in the AP poll (sorry couldn’t resist). They offended the majority of their fan base; bad business decision on their part. Dylan fans are more liberal and more likely to support his left leaning opinions. Yeah, Dylan is Dylan is Dylan... well, with the exception of a brief two year period surrounding his Slow Train album in which he tried Christianity... For the most part, his fans know what to expect from Bobby.
September 24, 200917 yr You're engaging in semantics, of course. "How dare they!?!?" was the common theme I noticed during the backlash. How dare they to me means they shouldn't have done that.
September 24, 200917 yr I'm trying to figure out the conclusion here that entertainers have no clue. I would say that, at the minimum, they have as much a clue as either you or I do. I've always been befuddled by the assertion that entertainers have no ability to think, and that their opinion is not to be considered because of their profession. In the end, aren't Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, Colter, et al the same ilk? I don't even have a public forum beyond preps and people disagree or berate my opinions. Different? How about if I say it this way, I don't buy concert tickets to listen to the bands political diatribe. I don't tune into "Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, or Coulter", to hear them sing. I don't tune into a political debate to watch them dance. My point is only that we all have opinions and beliefs. Just because I sunk the winning free throw to win the game, does not mean that when they stick the mike in front of me, that I spew my political beliefs. Or am I off base and everyone with a mike or camera in front of them, for whatever reason, is worthy of having their opinions forced on others? Why does no one cry that Ted Nugents career has been hurt because of his outspoken beliefs? Enough outta me, I am just not as smart as most.
September 24, 200917 yr I don't even have a public forum beyond preps and people disagree or berate my opinions. Different? How about if I say it this way, I don't buy concert tickets to listen to the bands political diatribe. I don't tune into "Beck, Limbaugh, Hannity, or Coulter", to hear them sing. I don't tune into a political debate to watch them dance. My point is only that we all have opinions and beliefs. Just because I sunk the winning free throw to win the game, does not mean that when they stick the mike in front of me, that I spew my political beliefs. Or am I off base and everyone with a mike or camera in front of them, for whatever reason, is worthy of having their opinions forced on others? Why does no one cry that Ted Nugents career has been hurt because of his outspoken beliefs? Enough outta me, I am just not as smart as most. You sure seem smart to me. You typed what I was thinking. :thumb:
September 24, 200917 yr Very good points and that is obviously why the Dixie Chicks’ music career dropped quicker then USC in the AP poll (sorry couldn’t resist). They offended the majority of their fan base; bad business decision on their part. Dylan fans are more liberal and more likely to support his left leaning opinions. They won five Grammys in 2007, including Album of the Year. Their career didn't suffer as much as some would like to believe. They just found a different audience than the goobers who buy the crap that plays on pop country stations.
September 24, 200917 yr i think many of them have seen quite a bit more of the world than I have and may actually have a much better grasp of the suffering going on in places like Darfur. You do realize that our politicians are not professors of education, finance, politics, or economics. Check out the professions of the Kentucky Legislature, Lawyer, Lawyer, teacher, tire salesman, book salesman, building contractor - yet they make policy all of the time regarding education, and insurance, etc. . . I would probably rather have Clooney's resume and world travels making decisions in Kentucky than I would some that we have. You have to give credit to Clooney and Ashley Judd and most of the Kentucky entertainment stars that are 'politically involved' for being mostly fair and not being haters or bashers. Clooney even spoke up for Palin when the attacks started on her family. What got the Chicks roasted is that they went into mindless attack mode in a foreign land during a time of war. Too bad Brad Pitt and Sean Penn dont by thousands of their albums since that is the mindless Hollywood crowd that they seemed to be trying to impress with their remarks. You can be liberal, you can even take some shots and the CIC if you are in the US. But attack the President and be personally hateful, during war, in front of 1000s of foreigners - you will likely have a problem if your fan base is mostly Southerners. You have not seen a NASCAR driver pull something like that! BTW...wasn't Natalie the...??? Edited September 24, 200917 yr by Bluegrasscard fix one letter
September 24, 200917 yr You have to give credit to Clooney and Ashley Judd and most of the Kentucky entertainment stars that are 'politically involved' for being mostly fair and not being haters or bashers. Clooney even spoke up for Palin when the attacks started on her family. What got the Chicks roasted is that they went into mindless attack mode in a foreign land during a time of war. Too bad Brad Pitt and Sean Penn dont by thousands of their albums since that is the mindless Hollywood crowd that they seemed to be trying to impress with their remarks. Interesting choice of words. Here's the comment: Just so you know, we’re on the good side with y’all. We do not want this war, this violence, and we’re ashamed that the President of the United States is from Texas. What's "mindless" about that? She just spoke her mind -- and for what it's worth, the Iraq war had not even begun yet. You can be liberal, you can even take some shots and the CIC if you are in the US. But attack the President and be personally hateful, during war, in front of 1000s of foreigners - you will likely have a problem if your fan base is mostly Southerners. You have not seen a NASCAR driver pull something like that! BTW...wasn't Natalie the...??? I still don't see what was so "hateful" about the comment. Seemed pretty thoughtful to me -- in the sense that she wasn't mindlessly following the drumbeat of Dubya.
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