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Do we need Healthcare reform or Healthcare cost reform?

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You don't think his parents paid out the wazoo for his insurance growing up? Sounds like luck to me that he was born to parents who could afford the burden.

 

Maybe it's luck, maybe it's not, but I'll be paying more now than my parents ever had to to cover my medical costs. It helps that they worked for one of the world's best companies to work for for 25 and going on 30 years, though.

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What's so hard about answering the question DIRECTLY as to what you would say about the girl.

 

Do they give her care or not in your world?

 

No....

 

You are heartless. Nothing else can be said.

You are heartless. Nothing else can be said.

 

Maybe so, but that's okay. I won't lose any sleep over something someone on an internet message board thinks....:thumb:

:idunno:

 

My premiums are higher than anyone else here, and they should be, but they aren't excessive IMO.

 

You know what they say about those that assume...pot, meet kettle.

I like how conservative-types rail on about the "sanctity of life," but don't worry too much about preserving lives once they're already here.

 

It is amazing, isn't it?

Maybe so, but that's okay. I won't lose any sleep over something someone on an internet message board thinks....:thumb:

 

 

Wow.

 

You are either completely putting on an act, or you are completely heartless.

 

I won't lose sleep over which it is. I'll just consider myself lucky, that while my parents and I aren't welathy, and while we have struggles with our own healthcare, we care what happens not only for us, but for everyone else. I'd rather be in my shoes.

You know what they say about those that assume...pot, meet kettle.

 

I wasn't speaking about on here. I meant at my work. I should have been more clear about that.

By the same token, you'd be wasting your time hoping for the "free market" to solve the problem on its own. Like you, they see no problem with the status quo, which is sad.

 

I like how conservative-types rail on about the "sanctity of life," but don't worry too much about preserving lives once they're already here.

 

It is amazing, isn't it?

 

I'm not sure if I constitute as a "conservative-type", but let me make it clear that A) I care about the preservation of lives once they are here- any opposition I may make to health care reform deals with my belief that it will make the health care for all and B) it has become apparent that UKMustang has nothing better to do and is saying these things for shock value, so don't take them as anyone's actual opinions.

I'm not sure if I constitute as a "conservative-type", but let me make it clear that A) I care about the preservation of lives once they are here- any opposition I may make to health care reform deals with my belief that it will make the health care for all and B) it has become apparent that UKMustang has nothing better to do and is saying these things for shock value, so don't take them as anyone's actual opinions.

 

That was a kind of broad brush, wasn't it?

I can tell you first hand I know Dr's offices who haven't paid for a lunch in years. As long as they are writing for the "new" drug that the reps are advertising to them. It has always amazed me how much faith the average person puts in their Dr because he has a great education and wears a lab jacket. I am not saying all but certainly a good portion can be persuaded by the drug companies. I have spent 10 years working in medicine I am armed with knowledge when I go to the doctor and it saves me a lot of money.

I have been a nurse for over 30 years. I can tell you that the bottom line in the health care crisis is GREED from all sides.

 

Years ago doctors and hospitals charged whatever they wanted and insurance companies paid. Then managed care came. Insurance companies fought back by looking over the shoulders of doctors and hospitals. By refusing coverage and raising premiums, they too fought to make bigger profits. Insurance companies will refuse payments if the coding on a bill is slightly off. Doctors and hospitals have to hire many people who understand the billing process and know how to play the game to get paid.

 

As mentioned above, drug companies spend a lot of time and money getting doctors to prescribe very expensive medications when an older, less expensive drug will do the same job.

 

People suing doctors and hospitals and getting millions of dollars has forced doctors to practice "defensive medicine." Doctors order more tests then may normally be indicated in order to cover their butts. In addition, rising malpractice insurance rates are a huge problem.

 

All these overhead costs are always passed down to the consumer. As we all know, it is getting way out of control.

 

It would be nice if all parties could take a "time out" and return with common sense.

I have been a nurse for over 30 years. I can tell you that the bottom line in the health care crisis is GREED from all sides.

 

Years ago doctors and hospitals charged whatever they wanted and insurance companies paid. Then managed care came. Insurance companies fought back by looking over the shoulders of doctors and hospitals. By refusing coverage and raising premiums, they too fought to make bigger profits. Insurance companies will refuse payments if the coding on a bill is slightly off. Doctors and hospitals have to hire many people who understand the billing process and know how to play the game to get paid.

 

As mentioned above, drug companies spend a lot of time and money getting doctors to prescribe very expensive medications when an older, less expensive drug will do the same job.

 

People suing doctors and hospitals and getting millions of dollars has forced doctors to practice "defensive medicine." Doctors order more tests then may normally be indicated in order to cover their butts. In addition, rising malpractice insurance rates are a huge problem.

 

All these overhead costs are always passed down to the consumer. As we all know, it is getting way out of control.

 

It would be nice if all parties could take a "time out" and return with common sense.

 

My stepmother has been a nurse for 30+ years, too, and she agrees with you entirely!

You are heartless. Nothing else can be said.

 

Government shouldn't be in the business of compassion. That is for the private citizen and religious organizations.

 

I certainly don't want my government fund something that is morality based.

I have been a nurse for over 30 years. I can tell you that the bottom line in the health care crisis is GREED from all sides.

 

Years ago doctors and hospitals charged whatever they wanted and insurance companies paid. Then managed care came. Insurance companies fought back by looking over the shoulders of doctors and hospitals. By refusing coverage and raising premiums, they too fought to make bigger profits. Insurance companies will refuse payments if the coding on a bill is slightly off. Doctors and hospitals have to hire many people who understand the billing process and know how to play the game to get paid.

 

As mentioned above, drug companies spend a lot of time and money getting doctors to prescribe very expensive medications when an older, less expensive drug will do the same job.

 

People suing doctors and hospitals and getting millions of dollars has forced doctors to practice "defensive medicine." Doctors order more tests then may normally be indicated in order to cover their butts. In addition, rising malpractice insurance rates are a huge problem.

 

 

All these overhead costs are always passed down to the consumer. As we all know, it is getting way out of control.

 

It would be nice if all parties could take a "time out" and return with common sense.

 

I am 10 years into healthcare and I agree with you. GREED across the board.

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