Hicks' dad was quoted in the paper as saying that this isn't a done deal - but that they are looking for a school with a better academic reputation than Shelby because of the kid's interest in Duke. I guess we'll see.

 

If thats the case, he should look into attending Manual. They are the top academic school in the state.

This kid started for Shelby Co. last season. How does that factor in with KHSAA and eligibility?

 

This kid's father played for Coach Mason when he was at Shelby Co. I know Coach Mason suggested to the current coaching staff to get Hicks up to the High School last season before one of the Louisville schools got a hold of him.

 

What ever happened to generational loyalty to high school programs in KY?

 

Seems all we do anymore is promote whats best for me right here right now.

 

The loyalty in sports is just about gone. The generational loyalty is definitely gone. A lot of this has to do with some of the parents IMO. The parents want their kids to get out and be the best they can be and play with the best teams. Yes, it is a shame, but in the same sense, you can kind of understand it. Everyone wants the best success for their kids.

 

As for the loyalty again, I see kids play with AAU teams all summer and then up and leave those to teams at the end of the season to go play in Orlando even though their original team is still playing. Zero loyalty.

The loyalty in sports is just about gone. The generational loyalty is definitely gone. A lot of this has to do with some of the parents IMO. The parents want their kids to get out and be the best they can be and play with the best teams. Yes, it is a shame, but in the same sense, you can kind of understand it. Everyone wants the best success for their kids.

 

As for the loyalty again, I see kids play with AAU teams all summer and then up and leave those to teams at the end of the season to go play in Orlando even though their original team is still playing. Zero loyalty.

 

Heres the thing. Hicks is a great young talent. If he continues to progress he should play D-1 some day. If a family thinks their kid has a better chance at achieving such a dream at a certain school under a certain coach I can't blame them.

 

As for AAU ball, there is no rules and regulations there. Why not play with a different team every weekend.

The Hicks kid is very good, and has some great experience at an early age, would he be looking North if the group he will playing with has good young players, and can be more competitvie for several of his years at North? This kid continues to improve and progress it wouldn't be too surprising if he were to make a Rondo move?

Heres the thing. Hicks is a great young talent. If he continues to progress he should play D-1 some day. If a family thinks their kid has a better chance at achieving such a dream at a certain school under a certain coach I can't blame them.

 

As for AAU ball, there is no rules and regulations there. Why not play with a different team every weekend.

 

Sure. We were just talking about the loyalty in sports.

Shopping kids around - that's what many of the parents of AAU players do. But it's really no different from what transpires with traveling club teams in volleyball, soccer and baseball. Parents hope and pray that their child will be seen, courted, signed to a scholarship, and they believe that these teams are a shuttle flight to the leprecaun's pot-o-gold and the end of the basketball rainbow. Just ask a few parents who attend and they'll inform you about who and how many college scouts were there to watch games at a specific event.

 

A number of AAU coaches network themselves (or hope to) into a higher level coaching post of some sort, and often offer the enticement of potential college scholarships to the parents of potential players, and shortly afterwards the checkbooks are open, and this happens in all of the sports listed above. This is sad and prostitution-like, but not unusual.

 

Other negative and positive side effects may take place, but maybe worst of all is the "all-star mentality" that tends to stick with players after they have to go back to their schools and rub elbows with their old "mediocre" teammates when they return to the real world of high school athletics, and this is plainly not good at all.

 

The reality is that the world of high school athletics is changing at a very rapid rate, with those changes being good and bad. But since so many people observe these same changes and events and perceive them very differently, it contributes to an environment in which it is almost impossible to establish a controlling entity to govern the goings on between AAU and high school basketball (and other sports). Regardless of our opinions, it's just seems to be the way it is.

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Colonel Mike I think Simon Kenton and NO would be close to even without Hicks. Both teams have good pg play. NO is bigger but I know Simon returns a good a wing player. And just for the conversation you posted Shelby's record against NO the past 3 years is 3-2 but I think NO is 0-4 against AC and Shelby is 2-5 against AC the past 3. Thats why I have to keep AC in 2nd right now.

 

I can understand that - North blew a double-digit lead at Anderson last year in the final two minutes and lost to them again in the region. I just think AC will be a little down this year - not much; the Bearcats will definitely still be a contender. Too much talent and a fantastic head coach...but although Anderson was 2-0 vs. North and 2-0 vs. Shelby last year, they struggled to win three of those four games - and the fourth was against a battered NOHS squad - so without Penny and some other key elements from last year, AC has some questions to answer going into 2009-10.

 

But right now, I still see this year's race as shaping up between those three. I see SK as a definite tier below those three, although they do have some nice talent...and sometimes HS ball is a bit like the stock market - past experience is no guarantee of future success/lack thereof! :lol: Simon Kenton is definitely one of the teams I plan on keeping an eye on as one of the "most likely" to make a big move this year. Ditto for Owen County. A lot of question marks elsewhere. But again, we digress a bit.

 

I also hate to see the lack of loyalty anymore. Ironically, I'm not sure it helps as much as the parents think. I know a lot of coaches who prefer to avoid AAU players due to the "prima donna" mentality often associated with AAU (rightly or wrongly). Not knocking AAU; just saying it has grown a reputation that colors it, whether deserved or not.

 

And unfortunately, HS athletic associations have no control - and shouldn't - over AAU-type programs. However, they can exert some control by the rules they establish for the kids in HS programs. Might be worth a new thread.

 

As for Shelby County, I fully expect more transfer issues to come up over the next year, but most of them will likley be within Shelby County, as the athletes jockey between Martha Layne Collins HS and Shelby County. It seems to happen every time a new HS is built anywhere. It will be interesting to see how that plays out.

Hicks' dad was quoted in the paper as saying that this isn't a done deal - but that they are looking for a school with a better academic reputation than Shelby because of the kid's interest in Duke. I guess we'll see.

 

If thats the case, he should look into attending Manual. They are the top academic school in the state.

 

True - and something the Crimsons should be very proud of. But North's no slouch; that same rating has NOHS as #5. Not much difference. The top 5, for the record:

 

School 2008 Score

 

Dupont Manual High School 108.5

Louisville Male 104.4

Beechwood High School 100.2

Highlands High School 99.6

North Oldham High School 97.4

 

Shelby was a surprisingly low #140. I say "surprising", because I know the principal and many of the administrators there in Shelbyville, and I think they do a pretty good job.

 

It's a debate for another topic, but having been involved in the education field, and with my wife as a teacher, I can tell you that the only rating that matters is your child's. The parents and child's attitudes and efforts mean more to the child's overall academic success than rankings such as this. Still, the relative values have some merit as being representative of the overall success of the various schools.

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True - and something the Crimsons should be very proud of. But North's no slouch; that same rating has NOHS as #5. Not much difference. The top 5, for the record:

 

School 2008 Score

 

Dupont Manual High School 108.5

Louisville Male 104.4

Beechwood High School 100.2

Highlands High School 99.6

North Oldham High School 97.4

 

Shelby was a surprisingly low #140. I say "surprising", because I know the principal and many of the administrators there in Shelbyville, and I think they do a pretty good job.

 

It's a debate for another topic, but having been involved in the education field, and with my wife as a teacher, I can tell you that the only rating that matters is your child's. The parents and child's attitudes and efforts mean more to the child's overall academic success than rankings such as this. Still, the relative values have some merit as being representative of the overall success of the various schools.

 

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It's great to see that the student has interests in Duke for his College career, but him transfering before he starts High School most likely has more to do with Basketball than it does the school. Many kids in KY do this every year before the enter high school and it is always about sports. Parents are always looking to get their kids to a better program that their child fits in. Hicks going to North Oldham is no different. Which is odd, because the other two Oldham schools have more basketball potential after next year and being that all of the schools are in the Oldham district I would venture to say that they are near the same standards in the classroom as North Oldham. Anyways, the father should have not said a word to the newspapers because we say what happened last year when Dakota Euton's father spoke to reporters about his son's future, he was ruled ineligible and had to go through the entire appeal process. I am not sure if this situation has come to that at this time, but looks like it might be headed that way. Anyways, the Oldham district does have good schools and very good varisty sports and like mentioned in an earlier post about Shelby county schools, there will probably be kids from within the 29th district that transfer within the next year or two.

It's great to see that the student has interests in Duke for his College career, but him transfering before he starts High School most likely has more to do with Basketball than it does the school. Many kids in KY do this every year before the enter high school and it is always about sports. Parents are always looking to get their kids to a better program that their child fits in. Hicks going to North Oldham is no different. Which is odd, because the other two Oldham schools have more basketball potential after next year and being that all of the schools are in the Oldham district I would venture to say that they are near the same standards in the classroom as North Oldham. Anyways, the father should have not said a word to the newspapers because we say what happened last year when Dakota Euton's father spoke to reporters about his son's future, he was ruled ineligible and had to go through the entire appeal process. I am not sure if this situation has come to that at this time, but looks like it might be headed that way. Anyways, the Oldham district does have good schools and very good varisty sports and like mentioned in an earlier post about Shelby county schools, there will probably be kids from within the 29th district that transfer within the next year or two.

 

All three Oldham high schools ranked very high in the academic arena in the last rankings...something they can - and should - be very proud of. While no guarantee any individual kid is going to excel academically, it is a simple testament that they are getting a great number of kids to do so. The proof is certainly in the numbers...not just the standardized test grades, but also in the percentage of kids going to college, the percentage of kids getting scholarships, etc.

 

As the father of a HS sophomore, I'm frankly a lot more concerned with the success of his school academically, although we certainly enjoy anytime the HS X-C team he runs on, and the HS baseball team he plays for, are successful...

 

I agree that the father probably should have avoided comments to any paper, but I really don't think you can compare his comments (my son is looking for a better education) with Dakotah's dad's comments (we're looking for the best basketball team). From the KHSAA's viewpoint, those are dramatically different statements.

Well, we shall see on Wednesday of this week were Hicks will go. School starts on Wednesday for No Oldham and Thursday for Shelby. So everyone still agrees he will enroll at No Oldham?

Well, we shall see on Wednesday of this week were Hicks will go. School starts on Wednesday for No Oldham and Thursday for Shelby. So everyone still agrees he will enroll at No Oldham?

 

I don't think anyone knows for sure... :idunno:

Sorry to say but this is a done deal. This goes back to last year when the season was over. It has been said that Hicks was at NO playing pickup games during Spring Break. Be for real, this is not about him wanting a better education to go to Duke. This is about nothing more than a dad and AAU Coach. It appears that he will be attending NO for 2 years and his dad and AAU coach are already prepairing for him to go to Oak Hill his last 2 years.

Sad story but a true one.

I just wonder what the KID really wants to do.

According to Demling of the CJ it is official :

 

http://www.courier-journal.com/blogs/demling/blog.html

 

The 6-foot-4 Hicks, considered the state's top incoming freshman, played on the varsity level as an eighth grader last season at ShelbyCounty. But his father, Darryl Sr., confirmed to The Courier-Journal on Tuesday that his son is enrolled at North.

 

"It's officially North Oldham," the elder Hicks said. "Everything is cleared and he's enrolled and ready to go. We're excited for him."

 

Hicks, considered one of the top players nationally in the Class of 2013 after a sensational spring and summer on the AAU circuit, averaged eight points and five rebounds on the varsity level for the Rockets last season.

 

Now, he'll be playing for Eighth Region rival North Oldham. The Mustangs, coached by former Male High star Danny Edelen, finished 19-11 last season and lost in the opening round of the Eighth Region. But the move wasn't all about basketball, according to Hicks Sr.