July 14, 200917 yr I too felt a whole "we're not smart enough to take care of ourselves" theme to this thread.
July 14, 200917 yr Name one President, King, Prime Minister, Dictator, or any other type of leader in history that has not had some vice or “skeleton in the closet”? Not Bush, not Clinton, not Kennedy, not even Washington.
July 14, 200917 yr This tidy, endearing phrase has been used in recent years to justify the high political aspirations of dim bulbs such as George W. Bush and Sarah Palin, among others from both sides of the aisle, and it makes no sense whatsoever to me. Why do you want someone you feel is "one of us" to represent you? Especially for the highest office in the land? Shouldn't we demand a bit more? I don't know about you, but the idea of a long-haired, bigoted, beer-drinking, NASCAR-loving, porn-viewing, tattooed, quick-tempered, Bible-tossing, reality-TV-watching, American Idol-addicted, coke-sniffing, pill-popping, overweight, underpaid, debt-ridden clown who cheats on his/her significant other regularly while rocking out to AC/DC in the Oval Office is just flat-out frightening. I use those pejorative terms because they cast an umbrella that covers about 95 percent of the US population (if not more). Bottom line: Most Americans are screw-ups, and hopelessly unfit for governance. Why, pray tell, do you want someone like you calling the shots in the Oval Office, with their unsteady, reactionary hand on the big red button? Wow I can't figure out how we can get out of bed and go to work in the morning, Americans (at least by your example) seem to be the worst example of the human species. You need to hang out with better people if you think everyone is as you say.
July 14, 200917 yr I'm out. I’m actually surprised you only met one of the criteria. I fit in four or five of those.
July 14, 200917 yr Author How about the tax cheats Timmy and Charlie? How about the gaffe maker Joe and the guy who has no experience in anything, but organizing people to protest. I didn't say anything about any of them because I have washed my hands of politics largely because of people such as the ones you mention (Biden), and I don't even know who "Timmy and Charlie" are. I find your description of the American people to be the true liberal elitist belief that the majority of Americans are stupid. While many are ignorant of politics, most are average, hard working Americans. I resent the way you degrade my grandfather who bought a farm in 1932 and eventually owed 300 plus acres and owed a bulldozing company. Or my father who sold farm equipment and was an excellent mechanic and welder. Or my son who is in the military, my daughter who works for a doctor. Or my many friends who are bankers, doctors, construction workers, nurses, ministers and a host of other professions. If tried to stop being an elitist maybe you could see what is out there. I too felt a whole "we're not smart enough to take care of ourselves" theme to this thread. Wow I can't figure out how we can get out of bed and go to work in the morning, Americans (at least by your example) seem to be the worst example of the human species. You need to hang out with better people if you think everyone is as you say. Get over yourselves. All I said was I demand a bit more than your average American running the show in the country's highest offices. You should too. I'm sure it didn't dawn on any of you that I fit many, if not most, of those descriptors I use in the first post. But you're going to read into it what you want, anyway. :ohbrother:
July 14, 200917 yr I didn't say anything about any of them because I have washed my hands of politics largely because of people such as the ones you mention (Biden), and I don't even know who "Timmy and Charlie" are. Get over yourselves. All I said was I demand a bit more than your average American running the show in the country's highest offices. You should too. I'm sure it didn't dawn on any of you that I fit many, if not most, of those descriptors I use in the first post. But you're going to read into it what you want, anyway. :ohbrother: Geithner and Rangel. I do agree many Americans do need to be better educated about our government. For example, there is no such thing as a "living document". When a person makes a contract both parties are to live up to that contract. The same holds for the contract made between the States and the Federal that was created by the contract called the Constitution of the United States. They also need to learn there are no rights that says they are owed a living, health or anything else that they need to do for theirselves. They need to learn it is not the place for the Federal Government to run auto companies, banks, or any other business. They need to understand that government does not set the wages of companiy leaders. What understanding that is needed is that government will allow for an equal start for everyone to achieve, with no guarentee of outcome. What you did was trash America. Just like Obama when he goes groveling overseas. More education is needed on our government, but what is being taught in many schools, especially the city schools, is PC politics or nothing.
July 14, 200917 yr Geithner and Rangel.They may be known as "Timmy and Charlie" on the right-wing blogs you read, but it would help your case here to use full names when mentioning someone. IWhat you did was trash America. Just like Obama when he goes groveling overseas.When did he trash America? And when did Obama do it? If you want some credibility here, you need to start backing up your assertions.
July 14, 200917 yr This tidy, endearing phrase has been used in recent years to justify the high political aspirations of dim bulbs such as George W. Bush and Sarah Palin, among others from both sides of the aisle, and it makes no sense whatsoever to me. Why do you want someone you feel is "one of us" to represent you? Especially for the highest office in the land? Shouldn't we demand a bit more? I don't know about you, but the idea of a long-haired, bigoted, beer-drinking, NASCAR-loving, porn-viewing, tattooed, quick-tempered, Bible-tossing, reality-TV-watching, American Idol-addicted, coke-sniffing, pill-popping, overweight, underpaid, debt-ridden clown who cheats on his/her significant other regularly while rocking out to AC/DC in the Oval Office is just flat-out frightening. I use those pejorative terms because they cast an umbrella that covers about 95 percent of the US population (if not more). Bottom line: Most Americans are screw-ups, and hopelessly unfit for governance. Why, pray tell, do you want someone like you calling the shots in the Oval Office, with their unsteady, reactionary hand on the big red button? You should add Bill Clinton, John Kerry, Al Gore, and most importantly, Hussein Obama to that list imo.:thumb:
July 14, 200917 yr Author What you did was trash America. What a joke. :lol: But then again, as I said, you're going to read into it whatever you want.
July 14, 200917 yr I didn't say anything about any of them because I have washed my hands of politics largely because of people such as the ones you mention (Biden), and I don't even know who "Timmy and Charlie" are. Get over yourselves. All I said was I demand a bit more than your average American running the show in the country's highest offices. You should too. I'm sure it didn't dawn on any of you that I fit many, if not most, of those descriptors I use in the first post. But you're going to read into it what you want, anyway. :ohbrother: May i add some more to describe you? You left several things out.:lol:
July 14, 200917 yr This thread has gotten too personal. If anyone wants to start another thread and stick to talking about the concept, that's fine. But the personal jabs are done.
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