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C Johnson vs Solomon Wilcots

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It is not the numbers I worry about, it is the intangibles he brings to the table for which I question. Best example is Tim Duncan. Guy's numbers are nothing spectacular, but when it comes down to winning games, he delivers. Whether it is Chad's fault or not the Bengals are not good, as the vocal self proclaimed leader of the Bengals, he has not proven much to me. Some guys are able to elevate an entire team by their presence.... I do not see that in him.

 

How many WR's have ever done that?

 

WR is the most dependent position in all of sports. You cannot win a game as a WR, considering you only touch the ball on average 7 or 8 times a game. Sorry but blocking a CB only does so much.

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Chad is easily one of the nicest, most down to Earth pro athletes I've met. The only one that I would say is better is Dhani Jones.

 

No one sees that though. The first time I met him, me, Chad and some of my friends made fun of Corey Dillion...to Dillon's face. It was all in good fun, but that is a cool experience.

I think all the Chad is going to have a good season, I like what he is saying and doing..

 

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I don't know (those of you who like him) if you all follow him on twitter, but the dude is by far the funniest most interesting person on there.

How many WR's have ever done that?

 

WR is the most dependent position in all of sports. You cannot win a game as a WR, considering you only touch the ball on average 7 or 8 times a game. Sorry but blocking a CB only does so much.

Just thinking to last season, look at Plaxico. Remove him from the lineup and the Giants go from being the clear cut favorite to barely able to win another game. When the lights were on, Plax would deliver such as in the NFC title game; his numbers are nowhere near Chad's. It is not just about numbers.

 

Do not mistake me as someone that thinks Chad is not a good player. I just do not see the winner intangibles.

Just thinking to last season, look at Plaxico. Remove him from the lineup and the Giants go from being the clear cut favorite to barely able to win another game. When the lights were on, Plax would deliver such as in the NFC title game; his numbers are nowhere near Chad's. It is not just about numbers.

 

Do not mistake me as someone that thinks Chad is not a good player. I just do not see the winner intangibles.

 

The Giants collapse, IMO had as much to do with the distraction of Plax's problems as it did with missing him.

 

As for winning how would we know. The Bengals only do that about 5 or 6 times a season. Hard to compare a guy that is on one of the most talented teams in the league like Burress was to a guy that's on the Bengals. Chad makes plays.

 

Like I said, no WR has ever been able to carry a team for an entire season.

Chad is a winner IMO, thats why he does the things he does. There is no worse place to be in the NFL if you really want to win, and yes that includes the Lions. The Bengals are poorly run, and built nothing off the momentum they had a few seasons ago.

 

What has he won?

Can't be said much better than this! People don't like Chad b/c he says what he feels and he is passionate. Like I have always maintained, when he comes out this year and has a great year, people will be right back on the CJ bandwagon, it happens all the time!

 

Don't like him because he takes away from the game. He would be more well liked if he would just shut up and play.

Don't like him because he takes away from the game. He would be more well liked if he would just shut up and play.

 

That's not Chad though. I'm not a big fan of people being fake.

What has he won?

 

When the Bengals win you see the good Chad. Yeah, he's still loud, but he's not complaining. He wants to win, and that is what I meant. I know someone will say "But doesn't everyone really want to win?", my answer is no to that. Some would rather get paid or start or be the man or whatever. IMO, Chad would rather win. (But, for the Bengals to win he has to get the ball)

When the Bengals win you see the good Chad. Yeah, he's still loud, but he's not complaining. He wants to win, and that is what I meant. I know someone will say "But doesn't everyone really want to win?", my answer is no to that. Some would rather get paid or start or be the man or whatever. IMO, Chad would rather win. (But, for the Bengals to win he has to get the ball)

 

Sounds like Chad to me...

It is not the numbers I worry about, it is the intangibles he brings to the table for which I question. Best example is Tim Duncan. Guy's numbers are nothing spectacular, but when it comes down to winning games, he delivers. Whether it is Chad's fault or not the Bengals are not good, as the vocal self proclaimed leader of the Bengals, he has not proven much to me. Some guys are able to elevate an entire team by their presence.... I do not see that in him.

I have to say.....as a Tim Duncan fan, his numbers are spectacular....he started his career with 8 straight 20 PPG 10 RPG years, and hasn't slowed down. But I understand what you are saying :thumb:

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To those defending Chad Johnson I don't know what to tell you. Football is the ultimate team sport! Chad Johnson would be great in the WWE or even better THE XFL!!! It's all about Chad. Poor Chad when he sucks, underperforms and the media is on him. I love his passion and loved the old Chad that worked his rear off and didn't talk. At least he's working again... that I am happy about. I wish he would shut up and produce though!

NFL=Team sport

CJ=XFL (he and He Hate Me would have gotten along great)

I hope he shuts up and produces. I will be excited for him if he does. I think he is coming back in great shape and could explode this year which isn't what he has been doing.

^I don't know who you're talking about. Chad has always talked, the only thing that changed is last year he didn't produce.

When the Bengals win you see the good Chad. Yeah, he's still loud, but he's not complaining. He wants to win, and that is what I meant. I know someone will say "But doesn't everyone really want to win?", my answer is no to that. Some would rather get paid or start or be the man or whatever. IMO, Chad would rather win. (But, for the Bengals to win he has to get the ball)

 

Why do I keep hearing" when the Bengals win?? When the heck weas that?? They have had one freakin winning season in what is going on 20 years!! They haven't won a playoff game in most of your alls lives!! You don't know if Chad wants to win.. Heck I say if he wanted to win he would have left this sorry excuse for a franchise. He's a complete tool..

Why is everone on his back? It's a business and he is entertaning. I would like to see some of you in his shoes...zzZZZ.

 

Because he cares more about the camera in his face than his team winning...

He is an idiot and even most Bengals fans can see it.

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