When did I say that I knew for sure his signing bonus was for 1k? It could possibly be all the way up to a 100k even 200k however i have a hard time believeing a kid drafted in the 43rd round is being offered half a million dollars! It just doesn't happen when the majority of kids in the 43rd round get 1k or even 5k.

 

According to Baseball America, players selected in the first two rounds of the 2008 draft received signing bonuses between $547,000 and $6.15 million. Most of the players selected between the third and sixth rounds signed for bonuses between $150,000 and $300,000.

 

According to Baseball America, players selected in the first two rounds of the 2008 draft received signing bonuses between $547,000 and $6.15 million. Most of the players selected between the third and sixth rounds signed for bonuses between $150,000 and $300,000.

 

 

And you guys acted like I had no clue what I was talking about?!:sssh:

Told you he wasn't worth first or second round money!

 

However, I am very happy with Luke's decision it's a win win! Good Luck in College and I wish you the best! Look forward to seeing the draft again in 3 years!:ylsuper:

Wow! Me personally would have taken that offer especially since Luke was dealing with the Red Sox. How many players have ever been drafted in the 43rd round and have talked to the team about a early round offer? So why did Boston wait until the 43rd round to draft Luke if they were going to offer that kind of money?

And you guys acted like I had no clue what I was talking about?!:sssh:

Told you he wasn't worth first or second round money!

 

However, I am very happy with Luke's decision it's a win win! Good Luck in College and I wish you the best! Look forward to seeing the draft again in 3 years!:ylsuper:

 

Hold on there Mr. Legacy23. If you will go back and check out your own posts in this thread, I think you will see you were saying he wasn't even a top 5 or 10 round pick. You were totally mystified why a first 10 round talent would not be picked until round 43. It looks like the money he was offered falls clearly within first 10 round money range, so I think you were a little off in your thoughts on that one.

 

Personally, if I were a major league team, I would use all my late round picks on guys that have top 10 round talent but were undrafted due to signing concerns. If you have the money and can get just one of those guys to sign, you have a major coup. I believe the baseball draft goes for as long as teams keep picking players so what do you have to lose?

And you guys acted like I had no clue what I was talking about?!:sssh:

Told you he wasn't worth first or second round money!

 

Actually, you stated over and over that he wasn't worth top 5 money - and you were dead wrong.

 

I know Luke is very good I just think he isn't a top 5 to 10 round pick yet.

 

If he was truly a top 20 round pick I don't see how he could possibly fall all the way to the 43 round.

 

I understand what you are saying but i don't agree that he is a top ten round pick. I just have a hard time believeing that a top ten round pick falls all the way to 43 round.

 

 

Come on your telling me that he is passing on 400k?! I have a hard time believing a catcher drafted in the 43rd round was later offered close to half a million?

 

If Luke was as good as you are making him out to be to date then he would have gotten his money and would have been drafted in the top five rounds.

 

Your right they only step up on the players they feel can get the job done. That's why they're selected in the top five rounds and given large signing bonuses!

 

Your exactly right it isn't rocket science to understand that a player drafted in the 43rd round doesn't sign for half a million or more. You can say all you want that he technically isn't a 43rd round pick. But really when it comes down to it he is. That is where he was drafted.

 

I'm sorry but I'm not gonna believe that he was a top five round pick. If your a top five round pick you get picked and you get a large sum of money. You don't fall all the way to the 43rd round. It's just the way it is.

 

So if a player selected twice in the top 10 rounds had a hard time getting half a million I don't possible see how a 43rd round pick can get it.

 

I don't think he is ready by where he was drafted. If he was truly the stud you were making him out to be then he would have been PICKED in the top 5 rounds and gotten that 500k plus signing bonus! Someone who is that good doesn't slip past all MLB clubs to the 43rd round. It just doesn't happen and it's that simple!

 

And if you know he was asking too much then exactly how much was he asking for?:confused: Must have been over a million or two because if he was top 5 round talent he would have gotten somewhat close to that!

 

If you were telling me that Maile was not really a 43rd round pick but rather a top 20 to 25 round pick I'd believe your statement. However, you are saying a kid drafted in the 43rd round is really a top 5 round pick? Even if the kid asked for a million dollar signing bonus then he would have been drafted that high and been given money close to that. I'm sorry but this logic just is way to far fetched! If your that good you will get drafted in the top 5 rounds and you will get money around a million dollars maybe less maybe more just depends. This tells me if Maile was asking for that much then no major league team thought his talent was worth that much hence why he wasn't taken!

 

Just because they are still in negotiation has no significance on how much money they are talking. They're still in negotiation because Maile truly is considering skipping college and going pro.

 

Look at what you are saying. Your telling me that Luke is basically the only 43rd round player who is getting offered 500k. However, every other player drafted in the 43rd round is just getting a 1,000 signing bonus take it or leave it?

 

Look at that! The majority of 43rd players are getting a $1,000 SIGNING BONUS! So Luke is going to get 499,000 more then all of these guys?!

 

Come on man....:confused:

 

When did I say that I knew for sure his signing bonus was for 1k? It could possibly be all the way up to a 100k even 200k however i have a hard time believeing a kid drafted in the 43rd round is being offered half a million dollars! It just doesn't happen when the majority of kids in the 43rd round get 1k or even 5k.

 

To sum up what I'm saying...IMO I don't think saying he is a top 5 round pick is legit. I don't see how a player who is that good can fall all the way to the 43rd round. Even if he was asking for a lot of money, if he was selected in those rounds he would have gotten a million maybe more or less just depends. Now if your telling me he is a top 20 to 25 round pick then yeah that's possible. That's why I believe the Red Sox are still in negotiations with him. I just think saying he was offered 500k is a little far fetched because of where he was drafted.

 

Actually, it was impressive how consistently incorrect you were with your line of thinking. Maile was clearly considered as a top 5 pick and received a commensurate offer in that range. You insisted he was not only not a top 5-10 pick, but more likely in the 20-25 round range. There was no point made by you that he was not a top 1 or 2 round pick. I don't think anyone (except Maile himself apparently) thought that he was top 1 or 2 rounder.

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Im not buying some of it. But either way, he is ending up where right now he needs to be, so it's a good result.

 

Actually, it was impressive how consistently incorrect you were with your line of thinking. Maile was clearly considered as a top 5 pick and received a commensurate offer in that range. You insisted he was not only not a top 5-10 pick, but more likely in the 20-25 round range. There was no point made by you that he was not a top 1 or 2 round pick. I don't think anyone (except Maile himself apparently) thought that he was top 1 or 2 rounder.

 

Ouch.

 

The new multi-quote button really backfired on Legacy23 this time. :lol:

Im not buying some of it. But either way, he is ending up where right now he needs to be, so it's a good result.

 

I'm not sure that I buy all of it either. Regardless, it seems like there were some discussions for bigtime money.

 

And I think going to Kentucky will work out well for him & his family. Tough decision, but in the end, I think he will have made the right one. :thumb:

Congrats to Luke on going to UK. I think in the long run it will work out just fine. :thumb:

Honestly, Luke was in a win-win situation. Glad we'll get a better chance to see him continue his college career.

I'm not sure that I buy all of it either. Regardless, it seems like there were some discussions for bigtime money.

 

And I think going to Kentucky will work out well for him & his family. Tough decision, but in the end, I think he will have made the right one. :thumb:

 

First of all, I wish Luke Maile the best. I went and read the article on Cincinnati.com. The reporter, Ryan Ernst, was comfortable in quoting the source of the information as Mr. Maile; yet the only source for the information was Mr. Maile. Did the Boston Red Sox publish a figure that was offered? I would think that the figure would be only posted if a contract was signed. I am not saying that Mr. Maile, whom I have never met, lied. What I am saying, is that the reporter quoted his source as one individual, not a published dollar amount of a contract.

 

Legacy23 was put down pretty fiercely. He was in the minority in his opinion. I am not saying that Legacy23 was right. I am just trying to present the facts. Quoting one individual regarding confidential negotiations is different than disclosing a public record of a legal document.

I am not saying that Mr. Maile, whom I have never met, lied.

Quoting one individual regarding confidential negotiations is different than disclosing a public record of a legal document.

If you are NOT saying that Mr. Maile lied, but that "disclosing a public record of a legal document" would reveal different figures, then what are you implying Mr. Maile did?

 

The fact is that Luke and his father have no motive to lie. Why would they?

If you are NOT saying that Mr. Maile lied, but that "disclosing a public record of a legal document" would reveal different figures, then what are you implying Mr. Maile did?

 

The fact is that Luke and his father have no motive to lie. Why would they?

 

 

To save face...this whole process didn't go as they'd hoped it would go from the start. They truly believed he was a top round pick...and ended up being a 43rd round pick. On top of that, if the offer was right, Luke would have gone. He wanted to sign. He was offered 150,000 to 300,000 which is a 3rd to 6th (which I doubt. I could see maybe 15 to 20, not 3rd to 6th.) So you're telling me he was offered that much, knowing in the end his school would be paid for anyways if it didn't work out...why not give it a shot? He wanted to sign. I don't think they outright lied, I think they maybe offered some decent money, but I think it was a little prettied up for the public.

 

*Just offering an answer to your question, not saying this is for sure fact.

I think they maybe offered some decent money, but I think it was a little prettied up for the public.

 

Still a polite way of saying they lied. :sssh:

To save face...this whole process didn't go as they'd hoped it would go from the start. They truly believed he was a top round pick...and ended up being a 43rd round pick. On top of that, if the offer was right, Luke would have gone. He wanted to sign. He was offered 150,000 to 300,000 which is a 3rd to 6th (which I doubt. I could see maybe 15 to 20, not 3rd to 6th.) So you're telling me he was offered that much, knowing in the end his school would be paid for anyways if it didn't work out...why not give it a shot? He wanted to sign. I don't think they outright lied, I think they maybe offered some decent money, but I think it was a little prettied up for the public.

 

*Just offering an answer to your question, not saying this is for sure fact.

1. I'm not basing any my opinions of the Cincinnati.com article- everything that I know was said to me by Luke (or his grandfather). They didn't pretty anything up for the public, unless they prettied it up to me as well.

 

2. I can assure you that they knew how the process worked from the beginning. They knew the fact that he was asking for so much would make his draft selection drop, and they continued asking for that same amount of money. The plan was always to go to college unless he was offered what he oringinally asked for, and no one was willing to give it (yet). The standard process is MLB players select these guys, watch and negotiate all summer, and then at the deadline (August 17th) offer a fraction of what the players have been asking for, and the player will normally desperately accept. There was none of this wavering from Luke (before the draft or during the summer). Since Luke wasn't wavering, and he had already committed to school, his draft position tumbled. However, it is clear that despite his draft position, MLB teams know his talent level- closer to the 1st round then the 43rd. In 3 or 4 years, Luke will come out with a degree and teams coming after him much, much sooner.

First of all, I wish Luke Maile the best. I went and read the article on Cincinnati.com. The reporter, Ryan Ernst, was comfortable in quoting the source of the information as Mr. Maile; yet the only source for the information was Mr. Maile. Did the Boston Red Sox publish a figure that was offered? I would think that the figure would be only posted if a contract was signed. I am not saying that Mr. Maile, whom I have never met, lied. What I am saying, is that the reporter quoted his source as one individual, not a published dollar amount of a contract.

 

Legacy23 was put down pretty fiercely. He was in the minority in his opinion. I am not saying that Legacy23 was right. I am just trying to present the facts. Quoting one individual regarding confidential negotiations is different than disclosing a public record of a legal document.

 

Thank you Homerun! I completely agree with your statement. If the Red Sox really did even offer 3rd to 6th round money then why wasn't there ever a contract released?! Also, in the article notice how Ryn Ernst only quoted what Mr. Maile said! There was no factual information that the Red Sox actually offered up to 300k!

 

I'm not saying Mr. Maile lied either but I think saying prettied it up is a good way of putting it! Everyone thinks the most of their kid and that's normal!