I think the thread title was 9th region though...

 

Yeah, those teams are in the 9th. They are also in NKY. Good eyes though pal. Whats the point of this post?

I think the thread title was 9th region though...

 

It was actually "The 9th this year", not "9th region."

Ah, I see, the thread title is 9th region. The post title was "The 9th this year"

With the top 3 being Holmes, Boone County and Highlands.

 

The next 3 to 5 might be a crapshoot.

 

Ryle has Stauffer, Coleman and Mcleish to lead the way I think. Then they have Perkins returning and Todd Vollet, who I think will make good contributions to the team this year. Vollet will surprise a few people I think. Not sure if Nichols will play, but if he does that is anothe big body.

 

Dixie has Trammel, Pike, and Hatton leading the way IMO. But, they also have a big hustle guy in Riley and Wes Smith is a big body in the paint to bang with other bigs. They should be solid.

 

Conner has Avery who I think will probably lead them in Scoring. But they have Clay Robinson in the middle who likes physical contact. They also have Tyler Hodges who is an inside/outside guy, and Jake Flesch who I think will be able to defend just about anybody at the 1 or 2 in the 9th region, plus he can score when needed. Liechty adds good hustle and defense as well.

 

Scott has Kellen Smith coming back for his junior season and he should be a big contributor and distributor. I think Scott will go as he goes. He will have the big man O'Connor in the paint as well. They will need some others to step up, but they could make a little noise.

 

NCC will be solid, because they have a decent guard in Pangallo, and Meyer who will be expected to step up. And, they have a very solid big man in Geisler in the post.

 

Does anyone know how Holy Cross, Campbell County, and Simon Kenton are looking. I think SK will have another down year.

 

 

I agree, but Scott will be very big and very athletic. Jake Niderager will break out his senior year and Keylo Jones is athletic as they come. They also have a 6'5 PF transfer from an Ohio high school I can't think of. He is a junior and extremely raw. He is athletic though and should be good on the defense of end. Scott will have a big drop off from their starting 5, which should go in height 5'10 6'3 6'4 6'5 and 6'7. Where Scott will be hurting is depth, they lose a lot from last years team. Scott's bench is going to be a problem, especially early on, I would not be suprised to see the starting 5 playing close to 28 minutes a game, and will not be suprised if Kellen doesn't play every minute of every meaningful or close game.

I agree, but Scott will be very big and very athletic. Jake Niderager will break out his senior year and Keylo Jones is athletic as they come. They also have a 6'5 PF transfer from an Ohio high school I can't think of. He is a junior and extremely raw. He is athletic though and should be good on the defense of end. Scott will have a big drop off from their starting 5, which should go in height 5'10 6'3 6'4 6'5 and 6'7. Where Scott will be hurting is depth, they lose a lot from last years team. Scott's bench is going to be a problem, especially early on, I would not be suprised to see the starting 5 playing close to 28 minutes a game, and will not be suprised if Kellen doesn't play every minute of every meaningful or close game.

 

I agree with this scenario, but what does this do for them the following year. This is just a general question and not directed at Scott, but at what point does a coach say we are rebuilding this year and look forward. I am not saying lose games intentionally, but if depth is your issue and starters are playing 95% of the game, then depth will continue to be an issue. I think this may affect alot of schools over the next few years. I know the 9th. region has had extremely talented 2010, 2011 classes that go very deep. What happens next. Boone County for example?

I agree, but Scott will be very big and very athletic. Jake Niderager will break out his senior year and Keylo Jones is athletic as they come. They also have a 6'5 PF transfer from an Ohio high school I can't think of. He is a junior and extremely raw. He is athletic though and should be good on the defense of end. Scott will have a big drop off from their starting 5, which should go in height 5'10 6'3 6'4 6'5 and 6'7. Where Scott will be hurting is depth, they lose a lot from last years team. Scott's bench is going to be a problem, especially early on, I would not be suprised to see the starting 5 playing close to 28 minutes a game, and will not be suprised if Kellen doesn't play every minute of every meaningful or close game.

 

Carr will play the players he thinks can get the job done for this year and work on developing depth in practice. Smith rarely came off the floor last year when they had depth so I would imagine he will get the same type of minutes as last year. Scotts teams are always extremely well conditioned. I think it was 2006-2007 when Nate Sharp was a senior when Scott went basically with a 6 man rotation.

I agree with this scenario, but what does this do for them the following year. This is just a general question and not directed at Scott, but at what point does a coach say we are rebuilding this year and look forward. I am not saying lose games intentionally, but if depth is your issue and starters are playing 95% of the game, then depth will continue to be an issue. I think this may affect alot of schools over the next few years. I know the 9th. region has had extremely talented 2010, 2011 classes that go very deep. What happens next. Boone County for example?

 

If you can win this year than go for it IMO. Carr built depth with his team two years ago to get them ready to compete for last year and this.

I agree, but Scott will be very big and very athletic. Jake Niderager will break out his senior year and Keylo Jones is athletic as they come. They also have a 6'5 PF transfer from an Ohio high school I can't think of. He is a junior and extremely raw. He is athletic though and should be good on the defense of end. Scott will have a big drop off from their starting 5, which should go in height 5'10 6'3 6'4 6'5 and 6'7. Where Scott will be hurting is depth, they lose a lot from last years team. Scott's bench is going to be a problem, especially early on, I would not be suprised to see the starting 5 playing close to 28 minutes a game, and will not be suprised if Kellen doesn't play every minute of every meaningful or close game.

 

The transfer has a long way to go before much of a contribution is made.

 

Scott is long and seemingly want to get up and down the floor.

 

Strong PG as long as he keeps his head straight.

The transfer has a long way to go before much of a contribution is made.

 

Scott is long and seemingly want to get up and down the floor.

 

Strong PG as long as he keeps his head straight.

 

 

I agree he is extremely raw. But I can see him contributing on the defense of end. Long and Athletic. Carr is really good at improving players, I don't think O'Connor is nearly as good as he is without Carr.

The transfer has a long way to go before much of a contribution is made.

 

Scott is long and seemingly want to get up and down the floor.

 

Strong PG as long as he keeps his head straight.

 

You know, i have heard about this. Just from word of mouth, I understand that you can really get into this kids (Scott's PG) head. Its been said that he can be known to turn the ball over if you get under his skin, or if things arent going his way. I was a little surprised because I have seen him in 3 games (albeit this summer in AAU), and he played well in 2 games and in the 3rd game he didnt have much to contribute, but the defense on him was fantastic. Can anyone affirm or deny this?

I did some research, and this according to the enquire, which has always been pretty accurate (since it is the schools reporting). What I found:

 

By Comparison

Scott SOPH PG averaged (26 games): 6.125 TO's in losses/ 4.26 TO's/game. (5.92 asst/game)

 

Boone JUNIOR PG averaged (32 games): 3.4 TO's in losses/ 2.625 TO's/game. (3.71 asst/game)

 

NCC JUNIOR PG averaged (25 games): 3.3 TO's in losses/ 3.08 TO's/game. (4.72 asst/game)

 

Conner SENIOR PG averaged (28 games): 2.46 TO's in losses/ 2.28 TO's/game. (3.82 asst/game)

 

Highlands JUNIOR PG averaged (30 games): 4.44 TO's in losses/ 2.93 TO's/game. (3.76 asst/game)

 

Holmes SENIOR PG averaged (38 games): 4 TO's in losses/ 2.53 TO's/game. (2.94 asst/game)

 

These are just a few that I selected. Keep in mind, I do not know everytime inside and out, but stats can be telling for certain things. Also keep in mind that some of these guys split time with other players. Also, not much difference between the older guys, and the younger guys have time to progress, develop, and get better.

I did some research, and this according to the enquire, which has always been pretty accurate (since it is the schools reporting). What I found:

 

By Comparison

Scott SOPH PG averaged (26 games): 6.125 TO's in losses/ 4.26 TO's/game. (5.92 asst/game)

 

Boone JUNIOR PG averaged (32 games): 3.4 TO's in losses/ 2.625 TO's/game. (3.71 asst/game)

 

NCC JUNIOR PG averaged (25 games): 3.3 TO's in losses/ 3.08 TO's/game. (4.72 asst/game)

 

Conner SENIOR PG averaged (28 games): 2.46 TO's in losses/ 2.28 TO's/game. (3.82 asst/game)

 

Highlands JUNIOR PG averaged (30 games): 4.44 TO's in losses/ 2.93 TO's/game. (3.76 asst/game)

 

Holmes SENIOR PG averaged (38 games): 4 TO's in losses/ 2.53 TO's/game. (2.94 asst/game)

 

These are just a few that I selected. Keep in mind, I do not know everytime inside and out, but stats can be telling for certain things. Also keep in mind that some of these guys split time with other players. Also, not much difference between the older guys, and the younger guys have time to progress, develop, and get better.

 

Style of play also affects stats for PG. Teams that push the ball up the court tend to have more possessions. More possessions lead to more assists but also more opportunities to turn the ball over. Since you used Scott pg as lead example if you watched Scott play every possession, every inbounds play ran thru their soph pg. Already been discussed that he plays pretty much every minute and probably averaged 30 minutes per game last season. I don't think it would be a stretch to say he had as much responsibility as any player on any team in N Ky.

 

As far as "getting into his head" seems like a pretty competitive kid and probably gets himself into some situations that his coaches would prefer he would avoid. Some of his making and some because he refuses to back down.

Style of play also affects stats for PG. Teams that push the ball up the court tend to have more possessions. More possessions lead to more assists but also more opportunities to turn the ball over. Since you used Scott pg as lead example if you watched Scott play every possession, every inbounds play ran thru their soph pg. Already been discussed that he plays pretty much every minute and probably averaged 30 minutes per game last season. I don't think it would be a stretch to say he had as much responsibility as any player on any team in N Ky.

 

As far as "getting into his head" seems like a pretty competitive kid and probably gets himself into some situations that his coaches would prefer he would avoid. Some of his making and some because he refuses to back down.

 

Other stats to look at include assists per minute, turnovers per minute, steals per minute, points given up per minute to the person they are guarding, turnover to posession ratio, assist to possession ratiio, shooting percentage, FT percentage, 3-pt percentage, points per minute, rebounds per minute, etc. Plus there are plenty of intangibles like court vision, hustle, bad vs. good decisions, etc. Some guards do better in certain styles of offenses than others too, e.g., half-court vs. push the ball in open court, etc. Open-court, push-the-ball offense is probably better suited to Boone's guards than a slower half-court game.

You know, i have heard about this. Just from word of mouth, I understand that you can really get into this kids (Scott's PG) head. Its been said that he can be known to turn the ball over if you get under his skin, or if things arent going his way. I was a little surprised because I have seen him in 3 games (albeit this summer in AAU), and he played well in 2 games and in the 3rd game he didnt have much to contribute, but the defense on him was fantastic. Can anyone affirm or deny this?

 

Talented PG with nice size and handle for a PG. Very competitive but sometimes lets other good guards/defenders rattle him. I've seen him get some Ts in different games. Will be the go-to scorer for Scott. Sometimes forces some 3s he shouldn't take.

Other stats to look at include assists per minute, turnovers per minute, steals per minute, points given up per minute to the person they are guarding, turnover to posession ratio, assist to possession ratiio, shooting percentage, FT percentage, 3-pt percentage, points per minute, rebounds per minute, etc. Plus there are plenty of intangibles like court vision, hustle, bad vs. good decisions, etc. Some guards do better in certain styles of offenses than others too, e.g., half-court vs. push the ball in open court, etc. Open-court, push-the-ball offense is probably better suited to Boone's guards than a slower half-court game.

 

Love Gabbard and Popp in open court. Will be interesting to see if Boone plays that style this season.