April 14, 200917 yr Yes, a strikeout that is dropped and the base taken is recorded as an out, if my very old scorekeeping memory serves.
April 14, 200917 yr If there can be five downs in a college football game, there can be four outs in an inning. Posts 2 and 3 covered it.
April 14, 200917 yr Author I would say yes if someone strikes out. But reaches on a passed ball. Yes, a strikeout that is dropped and the base taken is recorded as an out, if my very old scorekeeping memory serves. Those are not outs. The batter is charged with a K but the team is not charged with an out . So, can a team get 4 outs?
April 14, 200917 yr Those are not outs. The batter is charged with a K but the team is not charged with an out . So, can a team get 4 outs? No!
April 14, 200917 yr http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Rare-four-out-play-helps-Dodgers-down-Diamondb?urn=mlb,155380 I assume this story is the one that sparked the interest in the "4th out". Is this different than the dropped third strike rule? In other words, would the team that lost the appeal be charged with a "4th out" or would they simply lose the run that scored? I think the later is true, so no you can't get a 4th out officially. Baseball is a quirky little game, isn't it?
April 14, 200917 yr Author Here's a play. One out. Runner on 2nd and on 3rd. Line drive back to the pitcher. Runners are off on contact. Pitcher catches line drive. He throws to shortstop who does not touch the bag but, rather, goes after the runner and tags him. Runner on 3rd crosses the plate before shortstop tags runner on 2nd. Note: neither runner tagged up. Now what ?
April 14, 200917 yr Here's a play. One out. Runner on 2nd and on 3rd. Line drive back to the pitcher. Runners are off on contact. Pitcher catches line drive. He throws to shortstop who does not touch the bag but, rather, goes after the runner and tags him. Runner on 3rd crosses the plate before shortstop tags runner on 2nd. Note: neither runner tagged up. Now what ? Appeal the runner leaving early at third, get the 4th out, and the run does not count.
April 14, 200917 yr Author http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/blog/big_league_stew/post/Rare-four-out-play-helps-Dodgers-down-Diamondb?urn=mlb,155380 I assume this story is the one that sparked the interest in the "4th out". Is this different than the dropped third strike rule? In other words, would the team that lost the appeal be charged with a "4th out" or would they simply lose the run that scored? I think the later is true, so no you can't get a 4th out officially. Baseball is a quirky little game, isn't it? Very nice. This is known as the "advantageous 4th out." The DBacks cost themselves a run by not "getting" the 4th out.
April 14, 200917 yr With emphasis!! How sure are you? Your only allowed three outs an inning. As you stated you could get more strikeouts than just 3 outs an inning, but can't get more than 3 official outs in an inning. Unless an ump forgot how many outs there was, but then again it still wouldn't be 4 official outs because the ump forgot it, so that means it wouldn't be official anymore.
April 14, 200917 yr Your only allowed three outs an inning. As you stated you could get more strikeouts than just 3 outs an inning, but can't get more than 3 official outs in an inning. Unless an ump forgot how many outs there was, but then again it still wouldn't be 4 official outs because the ump forgot it, so that means it wouldn't be official anymore. Wrong. See above.
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