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Democrats wanted Bush to fail back in 2001

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Fair question. Do you think the media would not have reported it if 9.11.01 was just any other day in America?

 

It's possible although I don't think it would have been the media storm created by Rush.

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It's possible although I don't think it would have been the media storm created by Rush.

 

Rush is a lightning rod as compared to Carville so you're probably right.

I want Obama to succeed. I hope 4 years from now, I can walk into the voting booth and vote for him. I don't see it as likely as I disagree with almost every stance he has, but I'm hoping. However, I don't think there is any chance at all that if he implements the policies he wants to that he will succeed, unless his goal is to hinder America.

Rush is a lightning rod as compared to Carville so you're probably right.

 

Rush is a lightning rod as compared to a lightning rod. :D He likes it that way and it's made him a lot of money but it's certainly not my cup of tea. I get frustrated because I think he does have some good insight and could bring some decent debate to the table if he didn't try so darn hard to insult people.

Rush is a lightning rod as compared to Carville so you're probably right.

 

The difference being that Carville has actually participated in the political process (and may well still be) whereas Limbaugh never has.

I don't get the "i hope he doesn't succeed" thinking.

 

Rush took it one step further by saying he hopes that Obama's stimulus package "prolongs the recession."

 

Easy to say for a multimillionaire. Disappointing for an American to say.

 

I understand where Rush is coming from with the initial statement. He thinks Obama's policies are bad for the country, thus he hopes they fail. By saying that, he is saying he wants America to succeed.

 

However, I don't agree with the bolded. The stimulus plan has already passed and will be implemented. There is no reason to hope it doesn't work at this point.

 

JMO

As for the feigned "outrage" over Carville's statement not being reported. Please. Will America ever progress beyond childish bickering?

 

Additionally, I commend the press for not pushing that comment. They exercised restraint at a time when Americans needed to be together, not divided. Like now. My only complaint is that they don't do things like this more often, on both sides.

 

Our country is on the verge of a crisis, if we're not already there, yet...

 

Congress wastes time and money trying to play MLB commissioner.

Obama's cabinet decides attacking Rush Limbaugh is a priority.

Conservative talking heads continue to play "gotcha" with anything and everything that doesn't fit 100% with their view. Liberal talking heads do the same.

 

I could go on, but why bother?

 

One can only imagine what could be accomplished if all these people put their intelligence and creativity to good use, i.e., finding real solutions to the problems that threaten our country. Too bad the only place that will ever happen is in our imaginations.

 

Oh well...guess I'll go home and watch Rachel Maddow and Sean Hannity tonight. :deadhorse:

I understand where Rush is coming from with the initial statement. He thinks Obama's policies are bad for the country, thus he hopes they fail. By saying that, he is saying he wants America to succeed.

 

However, I don't agree with the bolded. The stimulus plan has already passed and will be implemented. There is no reason to hope it doesn't work at this point.

 

JMO

 

 

In reading the transcript where Rush said he hopes it prolongs the recession my interpretation of what he was saying was:

 

  • He does not believe th stimulus package will help the economy.
  • He believes the stimulus package represents a huge increase in government control and therefore a huge reduction in personal freedom.
  • He believes that if the economy recovers people will believe the stimulus package was the cause of the recovery and liberal policies will be expanded even further.
  • He believes that if the stimulus package prolongs the recession people will recognize that government control of the economy does not work and liberal policies will be rejected by the people.
  • He believes that country would be better served in the long run from both an economic and personal freedom perspective if the stimulus package fails.

Rush would disagree with you when you say that there is no reason to hope it doesn't work. (See point 5.)

In reading the transcript where Rush said he hopes it prolongs the recession my interpretation of what he was saying was:

 

  • He does not believe th stimulus package will help the economy.
  • He believes the stimulus package represents a huge increase in government control and therefore a huge reduction in personal freedom.
  • He believes that if the economy recovers people will believe the stimulus package was the cause of the recovery and liberal policies will be expanded even further.
  • He believes that if the stimulus package prolongs the recession people will recognize that government control of the economy does not work and liberal policies will be rejected by the people.
  • He believes that country would be better served in the long run from both an economic and personal freedom perspective if the stimulus package fails.

Rush would disagree with you when you say that there is no reason to hope it doesn't work. (See point 5.)

 

Lets assume for now that your interpretation is what he truly meant.

 

What do you tell the victims of a failed economy? Sorry? Hey, tough for you but the rest of us will be better off in the long run?

 

That's where I'm struggling with any attempt at what he really meant.

Lets assume for now that your interpretation is what he truly meant.

 

What do you tell the victims of a failed economy? Sorry? Hey, tough for you but the rest of us will be better off in the long run?

 

That's where I'm struggling with any attempt at what he really meant.

 

Don't take me wrong on this Clyde...But no matter what happens with our economy there will be "victims" that will suffer. In any society under any kind of government in which there is an economy to speak of, there will be ups and downs where some will prosper and others will suffer, always have and always will. Utopia does not and will not ever exist on this earth.

 

Believe me when I say...I, for one, am willing to suffer to keep this country closer to what our forefathers designed (constitution). I like to believe that I'm a Patriot. Call me crazy, but IMO Rush is one of the biggest Patriots there are.

Don't take me wrong on this Clyde...But no matter what happens with our economy there will be "victims" that will suffer. In any society under any kind of government in which there is an economy to speak of, there will be ups and downs where some will prosper and others will suffer, always have and always will. Utopia does not and will not ever exist on this earth.

 

Believe me when I say...I, for one, am willing to suffer to keep this country closer to what our forefathers designed (constitution). I like to believe that I'm a Patriot. Call me crazy, but IMO Rush is one of the biggest Patriots there are.

 

Define "suffer." I have a feeling the suffering that you're willing to take on is not the same as what I'm referring to.

Define "suffer." I have a feeling the suffering that you're willing to take on is not the same as what I'm referring to.

 

Go to a 3rd world country.

 

 

THEN, talk to us about what it means to "suffer"....

Go to a 3rd world country.

 

 

THEN, talk to us about what it means to "suffer"....

 

If your point is that there are different levels of suffering, I agree.

 

However, no one in this country falls to the level of suffering that they might if they were in said 3rd world country. So?

Just one of many times the liberal media hides/does not report things that dems do.

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