They have power hitters.

 

Not sure what you mean by this. IMO, with the addition of Taveras Cincinnati now has a good mixture of power and speed. Bruce, Votto, Encarnacion, Phillips are all good for anywhere between 20-30 HR and Taveras and Phillips have the ability to steal 90-100 bases between them.

Well maybe you have changed your opinion a little bit. Post #35 had me a little confused. But I do like the mixture. Fwiw, have also heard Micah Owings has been taking alot of fly balls. Could he be the everyday left fielder?

Well maybe you have changed your opinion a little bit. Post #35 had me a little confused.

 

Just that in a park where the ball flies so well, they need some sort of power. They can't do what the Rays did in GABP, IMO. It may have come out wrong, but I've always thought they need a mixture of speed and power.

2005, 2006, 2007. If he can have numbers at the plate like any of those three, along with 70-75 SB's I'll take it, and so would most Teams.

2005: .291 BA, .325 OBP, .666 OPS, 34 SB

2006: .278 BA, .333 OBP, .671 OPS, 33 SB

 

Those are not good seasons, especially in a hitter's paradise like Houston. Taveras' 2007 season was much better, but it was in only 97 games. Given his production for the rest of his career, it's unlikely he would have kept up that pace.

 

Taveras has never stolen 70-75 bases, either. His career high was 68 last year and no more than 34 in any other season. Even in his injury-shortened 2007 season, he was on pace to be in the low 50s at best.

2005: .291 BA, .325 OBP, .666 OPS, 34 SB

2006: .278 BA, .333 OBP, .671 OPS, 33 SB

 

Those are not good seasons, especially in a hitter's paradise like Houston. Taveras' 2007 season was much better, but it was in only 97 games. Given his production for the rest of his career, it's unlikely he would have kept up that pace.

 

Taveras has never stolen 70-75 bases, either. His career high was 68 last year and no more than 34 in any other season. Even in his injury-shortened 2007 season, he was on pace to be in the low 50s at best.

 

Curious as to why Houston is considered a 'hitter's paradise'.

Curious as to why Houston is considered a 'hitter's paradise'.

Not as much in recent years, but in its early years, Houston's ballpark was one of the best hitters' environments in the game.

2005, 2006, 2007. If he can have numbers at the plate like any of those three, along with 70-75 SB's I'll take it, and so would most Teams.

 

Of course, that's why he was in such demand and all those teams were in a bidding war for him.

 

He's not a good hitter, he's a very average hitter. He's a leadoff hitter with a career on base percentage of .331. He's never had over 83 runs scored in spite of being a stolen base threat, never walked more than 36 times in a season and has a career high of 172 hits in a season. He's also got zero pop with a career high of 19 doubles and 25 extra base hits. All he brings to the table as a leadoff hitter is the ablility to steal bases.

 

I'm not against the move if he came cheaply but he's a very mediocre leadoff hitter and a stopgap solution at best.

Of course, that's why he was in such demand and all those teams were in a bidding war for him.

 

He's not a good hitter, he's a very average hitter. He's a leadoff hitter with a career on base percentage of .331. He's never had over 83 runs scored in spite of being a stolen base threat, never walked more than 36 times in a season and has a career high of 172 hits in a season. He's also got zero pop with a career high of 19 doubles and 25 extra base hits. All he brings to the table as a leadoff hitter is the ablility to steal bases.

 

I'm not against the move if he came cheaply but he's a very mediocre leadoff hitter and a stopgap solution at best.

 

Is he an upgrade to the current roster?

Is he an upgrade to the current roster?

 

 

Yeah, I'd think so. I would feel better with him than having to make a commitment to Hairston. I just don't feel like he'll be much of a long-term solution. It would be better if the Reds could hit him 7th or 8th.

Yeah, I'd think so. I would feel better with him than having to make a commitment to Hairston. I just don't feel like he'll be much of a long-term solution. It would be better if the Reds could hit him 7th or 8th.

 

Hairston .330 OBP and .260 avg lifetime. I don't see much of a difference except WT's .283 avg.

Hairston .330 OBP and .260 avg lifetime. I don't see much of a difference except WT's .283 avg.

 

Taveras is a little bit younger and might have a little bit more upside. But then again Hairston is more versatile defensively and has a little bit more pop. Neither one is a huge difference maker.

Of course, that's why he was in such demand and all those teams were in a bidding war for him.

 

He's not a good hitter, he's a very average hitter. He's a leadoff hitter with a career on base percentage of .331. He's never had over 83 runs scored in spite of being a stolen base threat, never walked more than 36 times in a season and has a career high of 172 hits in a season. He's also got zero pop with a career high of 19 doubles and 25 extra base hits. All he brings to the table as a leadoff hitter is the ablility to steal bases.

 

I'm not against the move if he came cheaply but he's a very mediocre leadoff hitter and a stopgap solution at best.

 

 

 

You might want to read the post again. I believe it said, if he could have an average close to what he had in 2006, 2007, and steal 70-75 bases then most Teams would take that. Pay attention.

Taveras is a little bit younger and might have a little bit more upside. But then again Hairston is more versatile defensively and has a little bit more pop. Neither one is a huge difference maker.

 

I like Hairston. The injury thing is concerning. I don't think the "difference maker" is going to be the speedy CFer though. The difference makers will be standing 60' 6 inches from home plate. :thumb:

A so so signing IMO. My big question with the Reds is, why are they not going after Pat the Bat?

A so so signing IMO. My big question with the Reds is, why are they not going after Pat the Bat?

 

I'd guess he wants too much money. I think he made $11 million last year.

 

I don't care much for Burrell.

 

Go after Manny...