December 12, 200817 yr Read it and weep.... “Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.” Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist. “It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” - U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA. For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden. The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata. This is just a sampling of what more than 650 International Scientists have to say about Global Warming. UN Blowback: More Than 650 International Scientists Dissent Over Man-Made Global Warming Claims
December 13, 200817 yr I've always thought of "Global Warming" as a bit of a joke, however I think it was a good tool. It woke people up, to the realization of how much WE as in all of man kind, especially the US, though China was trying their darndest to catch up; were polluting the air that we breathe. I think of Gloabal Warming about the same way I do Y2K, or any of those other, world ending theories. However I do think it may have helped the world clean up it's act a bit, and ESPECIALLY help us look for alternative power resources. HOWEVER, I don't think Mr. Gore deserves any of the credit for any of the above, other than inducing panic that was not necessary.
December 13, 200817 yr Where would Albert Gore, the robotic cardboard cutout, be without global warming? He would have to embrace the "Earth is flat" cause. And, just think about all those NBC and MSNBC specials that would have to be replaced with mindless reruns.
December 13, 200817 yr The global warming crisis is all about greed and political power. The reason for urgency is that eventually the hoax will collapse under the weight of scientific evidence. Global warming alarmists most strike while the iron is hot. They know that the general public will likely lose interest in the middle of a few consecutive cool years. Al Gore is the P. T. Barnum of his time.
December 13, 200817 yr Global warming and it snowed in New Orleans !It snowed in Houston a few days ago - Houston's earliest snowfall since 1944. It was also only Houston's second snowfall in the past 12 years.
December 13, 200817 yr Where would Albert Gore, the robotic cardboard cutout, be without global warming? He would have to embrace the "Earth is flat" cause. And, just think about all those NBC and MSNBC specials that would have to be replaced with mindless reruns. Now that's pretty funny right there. :lol:
December 13, 200817 yr I've always thought of "Global Warming" as a bit of a joke, however I think it was a good tool. It woke people up, to the realization of how much WE as in all of man kind, especially the US, though China was trying their darndest to catch up; were polluting the air that we breathe. I think of Gloabal Warming about the same way I do Y2K, or any of those other, world ending theories. However I do think it may have helped the world clean up it's act a bit, and ESPECIALLY help us look for alternative power resources. HOWEVER, I don't think Mr. Gore deserves any of the credit for any of the above, other than inducing panic that was not necessary. We were cleaning up the environment long before anyone starting talking about global warming. In fact we were cleaning up things before they talked about global cooling which procecced global warming. So, I guess global warming saved us from global cooling, not.
December 13, 200817 yr We were cleaning up the environment long before anyone starting talking about global warming. In fact we were cleaning up things before they talked about global cooling which procecced global warming. So, I guess global warming saved us from global cooling, not. Please define "we". Things, per capita of companies, are better than they were, but there's still a lot that can be done and a lot of pollution going on. I'm not a proponant of 'stop global warming!', but that doesn't mean that the environment still is being mistreated by mankind as a whole. So often I've heard people when they drive out to the country tell me how much they love to be able to see the stars at night. I only wonder how clear it was 300 years ago.
December 14, 200817 yr Please define "we". Things, per capita of companies, are better than they were, but there's still a lot that can be done and a lot of pollution going on. I'm not a proponant of 'stop global warming!', but that doesn't mean that the environment still is being mistreated by mankind as a whole. So often I've heard people when they drive out to the country tell me how much they love to be able to see the stars at night. I only wonder how clear it was 300 years ago. The air qualilty is better today than the 1950's. One example is Pittsburg. The smog was so bad that in the winter it was dark by 1 or 2 in the afternoon. Our waterways are cleaner, an example is Lake Erie that caught fire, somewhere around the early 1970's. It is much better today than 40-50 years ago. The reason you cannot see the stars at night in the city is because of all the lights.
December 14, 200817 yr Global warming and it snowed in New Orleans ! I don't think Global Warming necessarily means that the earth gets hotter in all places, at all times.
December 14, 200817 yr Author I don't think Global Warming necessarily means that the earth gets hotter in all places, at all times.I don't think it means a darn thing. It's the ultimate scam.
December 15, 200817 yr The air qualilty is better today than the 1950's. One example is Pittsburg. The smog was so bad that in the winter it was dark by 1 or 2 in the afternoon. Our waterways are cleaner, an example is Lake Erie that caught fire, somewhere around the early 1970's. It is much better today than 40-50 years ago. The reason you cannot see the stars at night in the city is because of all the lights. You forgot to include our very own Ohio river in your examples. Much cleaner today than in the 70s. As far as the stars are concerned, I understand that "light pollution" is enhanced by air pollution. If the air was cleaner then you should still be able to see the stars on a cloudless night. even in the city. I'm by no means an expert, but this is the theory I've been exposed to, and it makes sense. Keep in mind, I'm not a fervent tree-hugger, but there's a lot of unnecessary pollution that we contribute even today. I don't think it's going to destroy us, or the world, but things could be better.
December 15, 200817 yr You forgot to include our very own Ohio river in your examples. Much cleaner today than in the 70s. As far as the stars are concerned, I understand that "light pollution" is enhanced by air pollution. If the air was cleaner then you should still be able to see the stars on a cloudless night. even in the city. I'm by no means an expert, but this is the theory I've been exposed to, and it makes sense. Keep in mind, I'm not a fervent tree-hugger, but there's a lot of unnecessary pollution that we contribute even today. I don't think it's going to destroy us, or the world, but things could be better. Air pollution may contribute to the masking of stars in cities by scattering light more evenly across the sky but the main reason that you cannot see as many stars in cities as in the country is light pollution. When I lived in Paintsville, a town of 4.000, which has virtually no sources of air pollution beyond a few fireplaces, I used to drive several miles to set up my telescope. Unless you live in North Korea, light pollution is an astronomer's worst problem for deep space viewing.
December 15, 200817 yr I don't think Global Warming necessarily means that the earth gets hotter in all places, at all times. That is true. However, in Kentucky, November 2008 was on average 8% colder than November 2007.
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