Did you say you were a Bobcat Fan?? When does true Freshman apply to HS football? Are you trying to downgrade his talent because he's been held back or do you have some other motive? I'm sure other kids that have been held back on the Bobcat team, or other teams, wouldn't appreciate you questioning their talent or accomplishments because they are "not true". Shawn Robbins had a great career at Bell Co. High School and nobody's disreguarding that, but ain't it a little sad to be putting down another player that maybe the fans can have hope in for part of the future of Bell Co. Football? Davenport has a lot of talent/heart and will be a great asset in the full package back field in the future and I don't think that you should be talking about "Studs" coming in and putting him down, especially another "untrue freshman" in Polly. A true Fan hopes that all the above mentioned can help carry the load as great players for the future of the Bobcats, not trying to pick one out to praise and one out to disrespect. :mad:

 

Its definitely worth noting if a kid has been held back. And, why on earth would that be viewed as putting a player down?

 

If there is a freshman who is playing like a junior because he should be a junior, its worth noting. Period. There's a reason its rare to see a freshman starting, or contributing big, at any level.

It used to be, you held a kid back who was "immature" but IMO you hold ANY kid with excellent athletic talent back. Do it while he is young. It will probably help him in athletics, and even if it doesn't, he/she will be one year more mature when graduation/adulthood hits.

 

I REALLY do think holding a child back is a fair & smart thing to do. Just do it young.

 

I'd have to disagree. I see no reason in holding a kid back and forcing them to go through an extra two years of school. There are certainly exceptions when it could be warranted.

 

But, from what I've seen, parents want to hold their kids back so they can be stars at the high school level. The vast majority have little chance of making a career of playing sports...and, to hold them back solely for that purpose sends the message that sports is the top priority. And, that is the wrong message, IMO.

I'd have to disagree. I see no reason in holding a kid back and forcing them to go through an extra two years of school. There are certainly exceptions when it could be warranted.

 

But, from what I've seen, parents want to hold their kids back so they can be stars at the high school level. The vast majority have little chance of making a career of playing sports...and, to hold them back solely for that purpose sends the message that sports is the top priority. And, that is the wrong message, IMO.

 

I agree 5W. And they are usually labeled "He's a Holdback" which causes them to loose some of their attention as great players because they are older than the others and are expected to be better.

I'd have to disagree. I see no reason in holding a kid back and forcing them to go through an extra two years of school. There are certainly exceptions when it could be warranted.

 

But, from what I've seen, parents want to hold their kids back so they can be stars at the high school level. The vast majority have little chance of making a career of playing sports...and, to hold them back solely for that purpose sends the message that sports is the top priority. And, that is the wrong message, IMO.

 

Why do some parents want their kids out of the house and on to college as soon as possible? Why not keep them around as long as you can?

It would be ONE extra year of school if you hold them back one year.

 

I like it for more reasons than just sports. I think having an extra year to mature prior to going off to college is a good idea. And, if you are talented in sports, it might make the difference between getting much needed scholly money or not.

 

Free education is a worthy goal.

Sorry to get off topic.

I agree 5W. And they are usually labeled "He's a Holdback" which causes them to loose some of their attention as great players because they are older than the others and are expected to be better.

 

Like I said, there are probably some cases where it would/could be warranted.

 

But, the cases I've seen, its almost always about the parents thinking their kid can be a star (and probably convincing the kid of that) and then holding him back so he'll have a leg up on the competition. I have yet to see any of them suit up at the professional level...so, what is the point?

 

And, I hate the message it sends. First, as I said, it implies that sports is more important than education. And, second, it says, "If you aren't the best or can't dominate right now, let's hold you back so you'll be older and more physically mature than the competition." Many of these kids dominate in 7th and 8th grade, and look like promising prospects as freshmen, but eventually the playing field catches up and they fall back to the pack...

 

...unless they're just one of those special athletes. And, if that's the case, they don't need to be held back anyway.

 

JMO

It would be ONE extra year of school if you hold them back one year.

 

I like it for more reasons than just sports. I think having an extra year to mature prior to going off to college is a good idea. And, if you are talented in sports, it might make the difference between getting much needed scholly money or not.

 

Free education is a worthy goal.

 

As I said, there could be some worthy cases....but, not many.

 

For the most part, if a kid is good enough to get a scholly, an extra year won't matter. And, on top of that, there's certainly know way you could make that decision with any accuracy early in their education.

 

In your post, you said to do it early...so how early do you mean?

Its definitely worth noting if a kid has been held back. And, why on earth would that be viewed as putting a player down?

 

If there is a freshman who is playing like a junior because he should be a junior, its worth noting. Period. There's a reason its rare to see a freshman starting, or contributing big, at any level.

 

5wide, I'd like to say thank you, and I'm glad you caught the main point I was making, and im glad to see you didnt look at it as putting a player down. I agree with you completely on all you said.Academics are certainly more important than athletics. In regard to an earlier post, it was brought up a player I had mentioned was a holdback also, but to make my case he's only been held back one year and it was academic related. I'm not saying that the kid I mentioned isnt a great player, because he truly is, just saying the comparisons to someone thats top 10 in the Kentucky record books should not be made at this point. Back onto the topic though, the best RB in the mountains next year. My vote goes to Fugate, but I think Carton of Bell County is gonna be a tough player to stop next year as well.

It would be ONE extra year of school if you hold them back one year.

 

I like it for more reasons than just sports. I think having an extra year to mature prior to going off to college is a good idea. And, if you are talented in sports, it might make the difference between getting much needed scholly money or not.

 

Free education is a worthy goal.

 

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Christian Skyles @ Sheldon Clark will be a good one in the near future.

I would also like to throw Alex Abner into the mix. He will be the PC workhorse next year. He showed that he can carry the load this year. Good hard runner with elusive speed.

 

Also the Jackson kid from Somerset should put up nice numbers next year. Good hard runner, won't dodge anyone or step out of bounds.

5wide, I'd like to say thank you, and I'm glad you caught the main point I was making, and im glad to see you didnt look at it as putting a player down. I agree with you completely on all you said.Academics are certainly more important than athletics. In regard to an earlier post, it was brought up a player I had mentioned was a holdback also, but to make my case he's only been held back one year and it was academic related. I'm not saying that the kid I mentioned isnt a great player, because he truly is, just saying the comparisons to someone thats top 10 in the Kentucky record books should not be made at this point. Back onto the topic though, the best RB in the mountains next year. My vote goes to Fugate, but I think Carton of Bell County is gonna be a tough player to stop next year as well.

 

I don't think there's much doubt that Channing Fugate should be the top rated RB in the mountains next season.

Why do some parents want their kids out of the house and on to college as soon as possible? Why not keep them around as long as you can?

 

It would be ONE extra year of school if you hold them back one year.

 

I like it for more reasons than just sports. I think having an extra year to mature prior to going off to college is a good idea. And, if you are talented in sports, it might make the difference between getting much needed scholly money or not.

 

Free education is a worthy goal.

 

Good points. Why not give a kid every chance. Those first 17-18 years are the most critical in a young persons life. It's our duty as parents to give a child every chance in life to get them off to the right start. Ask any parent who's held back a kid and they will tell you how much of a diffence it makes in how they mature and grades greatly improve. I have coached and delt with kids who have started school late due to the way their birthday falls. Boys especially start maturing late and could care less about studies. I've seen first hand how a year makes a difference in a kids attitude, attention span, a willingness to learn. I know from experience myself going off to college at 17 is very difficult and challenging to stay focused when your out on your own. This is bad off topic, so that's all I have to say about that.

5wide, I'd like to say thank you, and I'm glad you caught the main point I was making, and im glad to see you didnt look at it as putting a player down. I agree with you completely on all you said.Academics are certainly more important than athletics. In regard to an earlier post, it was brought up a player I had mentioned was a holdback also, but to make my case he's only been held back one year and it was academic related. I'm not saying that the kid I mentioned isnt a great player, because he truly is, just saying the comparisons to someone thats top 10 in the Kentucky record books should not be made at this point. Back onto the topic though, the best RB in the mountains next year. My vote goes to Fugate, but I think Carton of Bell County is gonna be a tough player to stop next year as well.

 

 

 

LOL Just an FYI All of the above you mentioned are hold backs, with exception of the Fugate kid and him I know nothing about and am not going to clam I do unlike you. Sounds like you might just have a personal problem with the Davenport kid, only assuming to know his situation when you obviously don't. LOL